We Have An Assignment From 911CitizensWatch.org

Gold9472

Gold9472

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Recently, I've communicated with Kyle Hence of 911CitizensWatch.org about the idea of creating a downloadable pamphlet. He asked me to get started on it, and I'm asking you for help.

Here is the basic idea of what the pamphlet should be about. The pamphlet should focus on unity within the movement, as well as attract the newcomer. Something that can be given out at the upcoming rallies scheduled.

For now, I'm calling it the "Unification Pamphlet". I think it is important for this pamphlet to talk about our goal of absolute truth, and absolute accountability. It should talk about focusing on that goal. It should talk about how arguing within the movement doesn't help the movement (maybe mention that even though some of the other evidence is extremely convincing, it doesn't help our cause to talk about things that can't be proven). I think there should be some confident, convincing statements, or backed up facts that would make someone new go "hmmmm...?" Facts that it seems we all agree on.

I'm looking for any and all ideas. Thanks.
 
Hey Jon, sounds great, I've been wanting a pamphlet to put under windshield wipers in parking lots.

The question is, what is the most convincing proof that we have??

Also, its hard for people to grasp the possibility that the government would do such a thing, therefore no matter how much evidence you show them, they'll never believe it. Because of this, I think Operation Northwoods should be included in this pamphlet. I know that might be too complex to include in the pamphlet, so if anyone has any better ideas, lets see them. We need to prove that the gov't has considered tactics like these in the past.
 
List of things to talk about

  • Sibel Edmonds
  • The Warnings
  • The Put Options
  • The 9/11 Commission's Conflicts Of Interest
  • The NORAD/FAA Reponse Times
  • The PNAC
  • Operation Northwoods
  • CJCSI 3610.01A
  • Lt. Gen Mahmoud Ahmed/George Tenet/Porter Goss/Bob Graham
  • Bush Administration's Attempt To Block The Creation Of The Commission
  • Condoleeza Rice's Perjury
  • What Has Happened Since 9/11
  • The Government's Plans For An Afghanistan War Before 9/11
  • The Bush Administration's Plans For An Iraq War Before 9/11
  • Visa Express
  • Environmental Problems Surrounding Ground Zero

Feel free to add to this list, or explain why you feel something shouldn't be talked about, etc...
 
Too much for one pamphlet, we gotta keep it simple and straight forward. We're targetting people that know nothing about this, we don't wanna hit them with too much information.

We gotta dispel disbelief via Operation Northwoods or something simpler if you can think of something.

The warnings before the attacks are easy enough to understand and prove. Warnings can mean two things, either the warnings that an attack was imminent, or the warnings to CIA members causing them to cancel flights.

Regarding the warnings of attack, is there proof that Osama was gonna use an airplane as a weapon? If so, this would be perfect to contradict Condi's testimony under oath. If they were vague warnings, then it won't be such a convincing argument.

I think the plans for Iraq and Afghanistan's wars before the attacks would be good too. Is there proof that Cheney made the statement on 9/11 that he wanted the attacks linked to Iraq somehow?
 
i have allways said... wtc-7, the pentagon, and how the towers fell....

im sorry gold but that other shit, all people see is blah blah blah blah.... there is nothing there for them to see...

i got a hand out at the last protest that was awesome but of course i gave it to my friend... i think it was from something like sf911truth i dont know but it was from around here.... i will try to find it...
 
911=inside job said:
i have allways said... wtc-7, the pentagon, and how the towers fell....

im sorry gold but that other shit, all people see is blah blah blah blah.... there is nothing there for them to see...

i got a hand out at the last protest that was awesome but of course i gave it to my friend... i think it was from something like sf911truth i dont know but it was from around here.... i will try to find it...
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You have to focus on their words, and catch them at their lies in order to make a difference. You can't focus on that which can't be proven... That's my opinion.
 
Gold9472 said:
You have to focus on their words, and catch them at their lies in order to make a difference. You can't focus on that which can't be proven... That's my opinion.
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I agree, we gotta go with what can be proven, sorry Inside Job, Gold has me trained.

Although, Silverstein's comments regarding WTC7 are compelling, so are the firefighters comments regarding two small fires as well as bombs.
 
somebigguy said:
I agree, we gotta go with what can be proven, sorry Inside Job, Gold has me trained.

Although, Silverstein's comments regarding WTC7 are compelling, so are the firefighters comments regarding two small fires as well as bombs.
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Right, but you can't go look at the evidence, and find out exactly what happened. As long as that's the case, our critics can say, "You're crazy".
 
911=inside job said:
i have allways said... wtc-7, the pentagon, and how the towers fell....

im sorry gold but that other shit, all people see is blah blah blah blah.... there is nothing there for them to see...

i got a hand out at the last protest that was awesome but of course i gave it to my friend... i think it was from something like sf911truth i dont know but it was from around here.... i will try to find it...
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I agree somewhat with "inside job" you need to address the smoking guns and narrow it to 4 or 5. You also need links to websites which explain all the other anomalies. Have each website focus on just a few with detailed information.
 
aceace said:
I agree somewhat with "inside job" you need to address the smoking guns and narrow it to 4 or 5. You also need links to websites which explain all the other anomalies. Have each website focus on just a few with detailed information.
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You can mention it, but I think this pamphlet should give some "direction" in regards to educating someone. There should be a method explained on how to approach a friend or relative with this information. Telling your friend or family member that the World Trade Center was wired with explosives and a missle hit the Pentagon will not get the desired reaction.
 
Gold9472 said:
You can mention it, but I think this pamphlet should give some "direction" in regards to educating someone. There should be a method explained on how to approach a friend or relative with this information. Telling your friend or family member that the World Trade Center was wired with explosives and a missle hit the Pentagon will not get the desired reaction.
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Yes, we need to give people somewhere to go to get more information. Maybe 911blogger.com. Have specific urls that they can connect to to get more information on the specific topic. Use this pamphlet to not only inform people, but to get them to sign on and get involved.
 
aceace said:
I agree somewhat with "inside job" you need to address the smoking guns and narrow it to 4 or 5. You also need links to websites which explain all the other anomalies. Have each website focus on just a few with detailed information.
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Hey Ace, nice to see you!!!!
 
The pamphlet is a great idea! personally, given what you have already mentioned about people not wanting to believe the government is capable of something like this, I think we ought to stick with those motives/capabilities/facts that are least 'unbelievable'. We just need to entice people to begin investigating for themselves, and then let the facts take those people whereever it takes them.

First of all, i will tell you i am biased towards what i am about to write, because while i belive that most of the Bush admin are evil, greedy people, I truly do not believe that any massive conspiracy to pro-activly DO something like 9/11 could be pulled of by a largish group of people. Not that the wouldn't WANT to, just that they couldn't do it wituhout fucking it up. However, I DO belive that they could have easily let someting occur and then take political advantage of it. That is not PRO-ACTIVE, it is just exploitation. Much easier to pull off.

So, I also think that with the right facts more people would buy into this instead of the pro-active version.

My 2 cents is to stick with the main points of the David Ray Griffin speech.

Air defense, Bush's schoolhouse activities, the Put options on the airlines, and perhaps a list of WHO has profited from the war and their connection to the WHite House.

Also, the link to accecpted and brand-name web sites/news sites as much as possible to back up those questions.

Instead of telling people to believe OUR version instead of THEIR version, I think we should present it as a list of questions about those main points.

So, just my 2 cents.
 
^^^^ i thought this was gold.... is it???

how about using one name only...


the pamphlet, im sure there are already good one out there i just no how to find them...

i find it funny that some of you think put options and an fbi whistleblower is going to make people interested.... i reall think that kind of shit goes in one ear and out the other(to someone who has no idea of a 911 cover up).... i would bet that the pentagon strike video made meny meny people start looking into 911.... we are in a time of tv and video, people dont have the time to read hours on end like some of us do...

i dont mean to be a dick i just think you are giving the average american too much credit.... the sheeple need movies.. lol...

i need to go to 7-11 and see if the owner watched the rest of erics dvd...
 
911=inside job said:
^^^^ i thought this was gold.... is it???

how about using one name only...


the pamphlet, im sure there are already good one out there i just no how to find them...

i find it funny that some of you think put options and an fbi whistleblower is going to make people interested.... i reall think that kind of shit goes in one ear and out the other(to someone who has no idea of a 911 cover up).... i would bet that the pentagon strike video made meny meny people start looking into 911.... we are in a time of tv and video, people dont have the time to read hours on end like some of us do...

i dont mean to be a dick i just think you are giving the average american too much credit.... the sheeple need movies.. lol...

i need to go to 7-11 and see if the owner watched the rest of erics dvd...
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No, he's not me... he is, however, a pretty smart guy. ;) You are right... when online, showing people movies, etc... works really well. Who's to say that the pamphlet can't include links to movies?
 
Well, lets shit or get off the pot, lets narrow the list down...

I vote for:
- Operation Northwoods
- Warnings to CIA officials not to fly
- Warnings to CIA about impending attack, especially if the warnings specified attacks via airplane.
- Bush/CIA links to Osama
 
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