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    Osama Bin Laden Is Dead And Buried: Multan Newspaper

    Osama Bin Laden Is Dead And Buried: Multan Newspaper

    http://southasia.net/article625.html

    10/23/2005

    A Pakistani newspaper Ausaf published from Multan has reported that Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden died four months ago in a village near Kandahar of severe illness.

    According to the newspaper report, Bin Laden was campaigning at Bamiyan, fell very ill, returned to Kandahar where he died and was buried in the Shada graveyard in the shadow of a mountain.

    The controversy continues to surround Osama bin Laden and while US and Pakistan officials have often been quoted by the media as saying that his mortal status was just a matter of detail, the hunt is still on and the issue remains a topic of great interest for the media and governments alike.

    Funeral prayers have been said for Osama bin Laden over these years with one reported now by the Ausaf, and another in an Egyptian newspaper Al Wafd as far back as December 2001.

    Osama bin Laden has a reward of $25 million on his head. Despite this he remains elusive, and could remain that way for a long time, alive or dead.
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    All I can say is watch for any Osama messages... If this is true, we shouldn't be getting any anymore.
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    al-Qaeda will realase a tribute video to him if this is true

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius
    al-Qaeda will realase a tribute video to him if this is true
    Al Qaeda? You mean the government database of known terrorists will release a tribute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebigguy
    Al Qaeda? You mean the government database of known terrorists will release a tribute?
    There are 2 al-Qaeda's:

    1) The group that fought the russians and used the name "al-Qaeda", Arabic for "database" because that's what it was, a way to keep track of the fighters. It wasnt run by any govn't, they but they were however, supported by the U.S. and Pakistan (amoung others).

    2) The other al-Qaeda is the one that formed into a global worldwide network in 1996 that used terrorist tacticts to achieve there goals. Originally began with members of the old group. In fact, this al-Qaeda didn't even call themselves that, they had no name until the U.S. governt called them that because it was convineint.


    For the possible tribute video, which they often make for dead leaders, I'm refering to the second al-Qaeda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius
    There are 2 al-Qaeda's:

    1) The group that fought the russians and used the name "al-Qaeda", Arabic for "database" because that's what it was, a way to keep track of the fighters. It wasnt run by any govn't, they but they were however, supported by the U.S. and Pakistan (amoung others).

    2) The other al-Qaeda is the one that formed into a global worldwide network in 1996 that used terrorist tacticts to achieve there goals. Originally began with members of the old group. In fact, this al-Qaeda didn't even call themselves that, they had no name until the U.S. governt called them that because it was convineint.


    For the possible tribute video, which they often make for dead leaders, I'm refering to the second al-Qaeda.
    Well, the government didn't do it for convenience, think about it, the government complicates the hell out of everything.

    No, they creates a government database of all known (and unknown) terrorists and called it Al Qaeda so that they could create their faceless enemy and boogeyman to scare the American public into supporting war, all the while being able to blame any terrorist attack in the world on Al Qaeda since every damn terrorist in the world is supposedly on the list anyway. Just government propaganda to ensure every terrorist attack in the world gets blamed on the government created boogeyman.

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    Also, I don't buy that Osama is buried in Kandahar for the simple reason that some enterprising person would dig him up and produce him to collect the 25 million dollar ransom on his head, dead or alive.

    He may be dead, but he is stored somewhere safe and sound by the U.S. government.

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    Osama if he is dead will just become a Kaiser Sosa (see Kevin Spacey movie archive).

    3000 years from now on planet xenon they will be talking about this terroristic mastermind, probably have a church of some kind dedicated to him.

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    Bin laden has stopped issuing tapes- Is he dead?
    Al Qaeda leader has not been seen publicly since December 2001

    http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10012

    11/5/2005 9:09:00 PM GMT

    If bin Laden was killed, “You’d need some DNA,” “there’s a good way to do it. Take a machete, and whack off his head, and you’ll get a bucketful of DNA, so you can see it and test it,” Cofer Black, a veteran of the CIA whom President Bush appointed a couple of years ago to be the State Department’s coordinator for counter-terrorism, was once quoted as saying.

    Bin Laden, Al Qaeda leader, with the $25 million bounty on his head, has not been seen publicly since December 2001- The question for U.S. intelligence: What, if anything, does it mean?

    Last audio message in which he addressed the American public was issued on Oct. 29.

    "Any state that does not mess with our security has naturally guaranteed its own security," bin Laden said in an Oct. 2004 tape, in which he discussed Bush’s re-election.

    He spoke of the 9/11 attacks just four days before the U.S. Nov. election. But where is Al Qaeda leader now?

    The Associated Press cited two U.S. counterterrorism officials as saying that no evidence has been reached to prove Bin Laden’s death- The working assumption is that he’s still alive, even if he isn't churning out tapes, an AP editorial said.

    Ben Venzke, chief executive at the IntelCenter said terrorism analysts are paying attention. - "This is the first time things have changed in years.

    "Messages have generally come in a consistent pattern, and now they are not," Venzke added. "It is likely that these changes in messaging by Al Qaeda are the result of planning and a P.R. strategy, as opposed to their computer broke."

    No one knows for sure where Bin Laden is, the U.S. followed leads putting him in a wide variety of places from Yemen to Saudi Arabia to Iran- but he’s believed to be hiding in a rugged area along the Afghan-Pakistani border, according to MSNBC News.

    Venzke suggested that among reasons behind bin Laden's public silence is that may be he’s decided to change his messenger.

    Fred Burton, a counterterrorism expert for Stratfor.com, a global intelligence company based in Austin, was quoted by KVUE News last month as saying that "I lean towards the probability that he is dead,"

    "It's feasible that he's been killed say in some sort of CIA predator drone attack and they've been unable to recover a body or DNA or recovery sight. It's also feasible that perhaps he died due to poor health."

    Some suggested that Al Qaeda chief could have been killed in last month’s massive earthquake that struck South Asia, devastating several cities in Pakistan- Other analysts say that the earthquake has just hindered Osama's ability to transmit messages. Others said that a tape could have been destroyed in the rubble, but this theory is weak as his deputy Ayman Al Zawahri has sent out a message in which he called for stepping up relief efforts to save Pakistan quake victims.

    Venzke says that Bin Laden could be plotting an attack on the United States but adopted a new strategy of staying quiet in the lead-up to the attack.

    Bin Laden can't communicate with his followers the way he used to, retired Vice Adm. Scott Redd, the head of the National Counterterrorism Center, said in a recent interview.

    "The more you communicate, the more you try to directly run an organization, the more vulnerable you are," Redd said. "And he is pretty deep in hiding. We know he is not communicating very much."

    A CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll showed that almost half of the American public think it's likely that the United States will arrest or kill bin Laden, a number that has moved little over the last three years.
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    Why do you think that is? That half of the United States think Osama Bin Laden should be arrested or killed?
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