To What Lengths People Will Go...
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For those who don't know...
slan·der –noun
1. defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.
2. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.
3. Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc.
Unfortunately, I don't have a lawyer to sue his ass, also, no one seems to know what he does for a living, where he lives, etc...
slan·der –noun
1. defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.
2. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.
3. Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc.
Unfortunately, I don't have a lawyer to sue his ass, also, no one seems to know what he does for a living, where he lives, etc...
I have to post this... it's just too funny.
9. Most idiotic Hangouter Jonathan Gold doesn't even know the work of Grable and Holmgren and concentrates therefore on Haupt aka ewing2001 only, which he sometimes calls a "damager of the truth". In case of Gold i can only detect a very low level of IQ and the worst Cult Victim of all of them.
I don't follow the work of individuals I think are promoting bad information. Nico Haupt is one of those people, and a "damager of the truth." As for my IQ, it's high enough to detect bullshit.
I analysed also his language in videos and audios. I believe he has no self-confidence at all and possibly was rejected from many friends when he was younger and sees "9/11 Truth" as THE chance to build an ego, desperately overpromotes any kind of 9/11 hangout crap, to become a "truth hero".
No, I'm not doing this to be a "truth hero." I'm doing this because murdering 2,973+ people is wrong, and I demand accountability. Nico, on the other hand, loves to remind people endlessly about his "accomplishments", and "9/11 Truth Resume."
First i tried to feel sorry for him, then we both literally tried to beat up each other in NYC but when we finally met, we ironically both chickened out, which is fun, because he's much stronger than me and mighy have won a box fight in the third run. Then again , Gold is also a Vendetta type and threatened to kill me once. Maybe that's how the FBI 9/11 perps will set us up one day.
No, we didn't literally try to beat up each other. I walked up to him, and said something like, "You're lucky I don't kick your ass." (He was posting a lot of lies about me at the time on the internet, and I didn't appreciate it) However, because of Wendi telling me it's not worth it, and because of where we were, and what day it was, I chose not to make a scene. He did threaten to drop kick me in the head. I thought it was hysterical. Anyway, as far as the "death threat" goes... sometimes if someone pushes you enough, you say things you shouldn't. I'm not a violent person, but I can only take so much sometimes.
But some 9/11 analysts and -decoders even give Gold more credit and think he's the best shill of all of them and works for either IntelOps of Howard Stern or the Porn Industry. I couldn't figure out yet, where *this satire* was created.
Nope, I don't work for Howard Stern, or the Porn Industry.
9. Most idiotic Hangouter Jonathan Gold doesn't even know the work of Grable and Holmgren and concentrates therefore on Haupt aka ewing2001 only, which he sometimes calls a "damager of the truth". In case of Gold i can only detect a very low level of IQ and the worst Cult Victim of all of them.
I don't follow the work of individuals I think are promoting bad information. Nico Haupt is one of those people, and a "damager of the truth." As for my IQ, it's high enough to detect bullshit.
I analysed also his language in videos and audios. I believe he has no self-confidence at all and possibly was rejected from many friends when he was younger and sees "9/11 Truth" as THE chance to build an ego, desperately overpromotes any kind of 9/11 hangout crap, to become a "truth hero".
No, I'm not doing this to be a "truth hero." I'm doing this because murdering 2,973+ people is wrong, and I demand accountability. Nico, on the other hand, loves to remind people endlessly about his "accomplishments", and "9/11 Truth Resume."
First i tried to feel sorry for him, then we both literally tried to beat up each other in NYC but when we finally met, we ironically both chickened out, which is fun, because he's much stronger than me and mighy have won a box fight in the third run. Then again , Gold is also a Vendetta type and threatened to kill me once. Maybe that's how the FBI 9/11 perps will set us up one day.
No, we didn't literally try to beat up each other. I walked up to him, and said something like, "You're lucky I don't kick your ass." (He was posting a lot of lies about me at the time on the internet, and I didn't appreciate it) However, because of Wendi telling me it's not worth it, and because of where we were, and what day it was, I chose not to make a scene. He did threaten to drop kick me in the head. I thought it was hysterical. Anyway, as far as the "death threat" goes... sometimes if someone pushes you enough, you say things you shouldn't. I'm not a violent person, but I can only take so much sometimes.
But some 9/11 analysts and -decoders even give Gold more credit and think he's the best shill of all of them and works for either IntelOps of Howard Stern or the Porn Industry. I couldn't figure out yet, where *this satire* was created.
Nope, I don't work for Howard Stern, or the Porn Industry.
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werther
Guest
Who is Nico Haupt really anyway. I saw on ..I think it was synthetic terror that his review was printed on the back. What exactly has he done "for the movement"?
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rachel
Guest
Sheesh, that Portland article is rough. By the way, did you notice this comment at the end of the page?
I don't know what they are trying to imply, but all I can say is thank goodness for somebigguy, georgewashington, and the others who help dz or we'd never have time for life! Between planning a wedding, working a full time job, and taking care of me when I'm freaked out over grad school, it's a wonder anything gets posted to 911blogger. "Unlimited resources" - yeah, right! It's called being smart and knowing how to ask for help.
I don't know what they are trying to imply, but all I can say is thank goodness for somebigguy, georgewashington, and the others who help dz or we'd never have time for life! Between planning a wedding, working a full time job, and taking care of me when I'm freaked out over grad school, it's a wonder anything gets posted to 911blogger. "Unlimited resources" - yeah, right! It's called being smart and knowing how to ask for help.
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borepstein
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Smear campaign. No links,no attributions.
Or somebody really took your identity to smear you. Same difference - and like you said, someone like yourself should have expected that to happen a long time ago.
Or somebody really took your identity to smear you. Same difference - and like you said, someone like yourself should have expected that to happen a long time ago.
Guide to Jon Gold's 9/11 (Un)Truthing Script
http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/?q=node/196
I'm sure for those who have observed Jon Gold's tired shtick going back to the days of the Howard Stern Message Board and the various other boards up through the recent controlled demolition of Apartment 911B, and now on this forum, the script that Gold follows is pretty obvious by now. It's a pretty consistent script over the years, I have to say. So, for guiding people who are new to Jon's schtick, and for laughs for those who are all too familiar with Mr. Gold, here 'tis:
1) Attempt to divert people away from the evidence that most strongly supports MIHOP, ESPECIALLY any evidence that implicates Mossad/Zionist involvement, while exagerating about and going ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about the Al Queda/Patsystan/LIHOP "evidence".
1A) WTC Controlled Demolition and Pentagon No Boeing evidence and any evidence that disproves that muslim hijackers were onboard the planes must be rejected or downplayed at all times. Shut down those who attempt to bring up this evidence. Those who discuss this evidence are to be accused of being agents, and/or of being divisive. If any of this type of MIHOP evidence becomes too universally accepted within the movement, such as what has happened with the WTC CD in the last few years, forget that he used to reject it, accuse anyone of being a liar who points out that Jon used to reject it, but still attempt to downplay it (see Jon's "This is Not the Controlled Demolition Movement" post last month on Apartment 911B).
1B) "Contribute to the movement" (and make a name for yourself) by doing such things as writing letters to and dialoguing with the family members asking questions about Patsystan in order to keep them focased on Patsystan. If anybody disagrees with this naked attempt to contain the inquiry and keep influencial and well respected people, such as the family members, from looking in the direction of Israel/Zionists, accuse such dissenters of disrespecting/not supporting family members, and/or being divisive, and or asking them "what have you contributed to the movement?"
1C) Don't allow any discussion of evidence that points to Israel/Zionists being behind 9/11. Accuse anybody who tries to discuss this evidence of being anti-semites, and/or of being divisive
2) How to deal with criticism of this script and arguments used against people who continue challenging Jon's tactics:
2A) Accuse dissenters of being agents
2B) Accuse those who disagree with and criticize Jon's tactics of lying
2C) Play the sympathy card - paint the disagreements and criticisms in terms of people unfairly attacking/victimizing Jon or orchestrating a vendetta
2D) Accuse people of keeping Jon from FINDING THE TRUTH, and keep repeating that he is "only attempting to FIND THE TRUTH"
2E) Accuse them of lying again
2F) Question the dissenter's motivations
2G) Claim that the dissenter only posts comments that attack good hard-working truthers such as Jon whether true or not (mostly not)
2H) Claim that the dissenter does not contribute anything to the truth movement whether true or not (mostly not)
2I) Name drop - Jon knows everybody who's anybody in the 9/11 truth movement
2J) Accuse them of lying again
2K) Attack the blatent disinfo types, such as the WTC No-Planers/Hologram types in order to show that Jon Himself couldn't possibly be disinfo agent
2L) Claim that Jon has contributed more blog posts than anybody else in the movement, and therefore is worth more than any other truther to the movement (pretending that only quantity, not quality, counts - i.e. disregarding the negative value that should be ascribed to contributions that serve to misdirect/distract people away from the true perpetrators of 9/11...how many posts about the alleged 100,000 wire transfer from Patsystan to Mohammed Atta reported in the Times of India do we really need?)
2M) Accuse the dissenters of dividing the movement (of course, Jon's divisive behavior must not ever be considered divisive)
2N) Accuse the dissenters of disrespecting/not supporting family members
2O) Claim that the dissenter needs to grow up
Jon Gold wrote:
Grow up casseia. Either grow up, or find a new outlet that appreciates your kind of "work."
2P) Demand that the dissenter "STOP LYING ABOUT ME"
2Q) If all else fails, support censorship, and when possible ban people who hurt Jon's feelings (or refuse to go along with the script)
Well, Jon, you set yourself up for this. Yes, I know, I'm just lying about you and I'm really just an agent who only attacks you and keeps you from doing your hard work of finding the truth...
http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/?q=node/196
I'm sure for those who have observed Jon Gold's tired shtick going back to the days of the Howard Stern Message Board and the various other boards up through the recent controlled demolition of Apartment 911B, and now on this forum, the script that Gold follows is pretty obvious by now. It's a pretty consistent script over the years, I have to say. So, for guiding people who are new to Jon's schtick, and for laughs for those who are all too familiar with Mr. Gold, here 'tis:
1) Attempt to divert people away from the evidence that most strongly supports MIHOP, ESPECIALLY any evidence that implicates Mossad/Zionist involvement, while exagerating about and going ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about the Al Queda/Patsystan/LIHOP "evidence".
1A) WTC Controlled Demolition and Pentagon No Boeing evidence and any evidence that disproves that muslim hijackers were onboard the planes must be rejected or downplayed at all times. Shut down those who attempt to bring up this evidence. Those who discuss this evidence are to be accused of being agents, and/or of being divisive. If any of this type of MIHOP evidence becomes too universally accepted within the movement, such as what has happened with the WTC CD in the last few years, forget that he used to reject it, accuse anyone of being a liar who points out that Jon used to reject it, but still attempt to downplay it (see Jon's "This is Not the Controlled Demolition Movement" post last month on Apartment 911B).
1B) "Contribute to the movement" (and make a name for yourself) by doing such things as writing letters to and dialoguing with the family members asking questions about Patsystan in order to keep them focased on Patsystan. If anybody disagrees with this naked attempt to contain the inquiry and keep influencial and well respected people, such as the family members, from looking in the direction of Israel/Zionists, accuse such dissenters of disrespecting/not supporting family members, and/or being divisive, and or asking them "what have you contributed to the movement?"
1C) Don't allow any discussion of evidence that points to Israel/Zionists being behind 9/11. Accuse anybody who tries to discuss this evidence of being anti-semites, and/or of being divisive
2) How to deal with criticism of this script and arguments used against people who continue challenging Jon's tactics:
2A) Accuse dissenters of being agents
2B) Accuse those who disagree with and criticize Jon's tactics of lying
2C) Play the sympathy card - paint the disagreements and criticisms in terms of people unfairly attacking/victimizing Jon or orchestrating a vendetta
2D) Accuse people of keeping Jon from FINDING THE TRUTH, and keep repeating that he is "only attempting to FIND THE TRUTH"
2E) Accuse them of lying again
2F) Question the dissenter's motivations
2G) Claim that the dissenter only posts comments that attack good hard-working truthers such as Jon whether true or not (mostly not)
2H) Claim that the dissenter does not contribute anything to the truth movement whether true or not (mostly not)
2I) Name drop - Jon knows everybody who's anybody in the 9/11 truth movement
2J) Accuse them of lying again
2K) Attack the blatent disinfo types, such as the WTC No-Planers/Hologram types in order to show that Jon Himself couldn't possibly be disinfo agent
2L) Claim that Jon has contributed more blog posts than anybody else in the movement, and therefore is worth more than any other truther to the movement (pretending that only quantity, not quality, counts - i.e. disregarding the negative value that should be ascribed to contributions that serve to misdirect/distract people away from the true perpetrators of 9/11...how many posts about the alleged 100,000 wire transfer from Patsystan to Mohammed Atta reported in the Times of India do we really need?)
2M) Accuse the dissenters of dividing the movement (of course, Jon's divisive behavior must not ever be considered divisive)
2N) Accuse the dissenters of disrespecting/not supporting family members
2O) Claim that the dissenter needs to grow up
Jon Gold wrote:
Grow up casseia. Either grow up, or find a new outlet that appreciates your kind of "work."
2P) Demand that the dissenter "STOP LYING ABOUT ME"
2Q) If all else fails, support censorship, and when possible ban people who hurt Jon's feelings (or refuse to go along with the script)
Well, Jon, you set yourself up for this. Yes, I know, I'm just lying about you and I'm really just an agent who only attacks you and keeps you from doing your hard work of finding the truth...
http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/640?replies=2
im at the conference right now. tarpley just called cosmos, jenny sparks, arabesque, michael wolsey, and john gold all cointelpro. he even put pictures of some of these peopleup on the screen.
no one even murmured.
im at the conference right now. tarpley just called cosmos, jenny sparks, arabesque, michael wolsey, and john gold all cointelpro. he even put pictures of some of these peopleup on the screen.
no one even murmured.
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werther
Guest
is this for real? Did Webster Tarpley really call you guys out? WTF!
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AuGmENTor
Guest
Jon isn't home yet...
http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/355
http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/364
http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/366
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/126
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/196
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/137
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/107
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/119
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/123
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/29
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/130
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/143
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/150
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/347
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/32
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/287
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/96
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/217
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/149
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/147
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/120
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/114
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/117
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/231
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/99
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/118
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/124
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/88
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/201
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/227
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/47
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/170
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/229
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/3
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/112
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/189
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/161
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/58
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/84
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/82
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/100
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/61
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/83
Who has time to think of someone so much? I hate Jim Fetzer, but you don't see me writing slanderous things about him. You don't see me waste time on such things. What kind of people do that?
http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/364
http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/366
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/126
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/196
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/137
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/107
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/119
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/123
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/29
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/130
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/143
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/150
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/347
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/32
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/287
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/96
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/217
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/149
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/147
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/120
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/114
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/117
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/231
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/99
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/118
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/124
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/88
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/201
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/227
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/47
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/170
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/229
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/3
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/112
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/189
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/161
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/58
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/84
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/82
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/100
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/61
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/83
Who has time to think of someone so much? I hate Jim Fetzer, but you don't see me writing slanderous things about him. You don't see me waste time on such things. What kind of people do that?
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AuGmENTor
Guest
heh welcome back?
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PhilosophyGenius
Guest
Sympathy post or showing off your good looks?
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=3682
Jon Gold and his ilk are still at it promoting Steve
Alten's "The Shell Game". You would think that Jon's
parents, Fred and Rose, would have raised him better
than to shill for the U S Government by promoting
fictional planes and hijackers. But then Steve Alten
needs all the help he can get with a Barns & Noble
sales rank of 9,261. At the sales rank of 556, Arthur
Schwartz's "Jewish Home Cooking" is selling 1,665% better!
http://911blogger.com/node/14601#comment-181103
The Shell Game by Steve Alten
Sales Rank: 9,261 3/30/08
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Shell...99550947/?itm=1
Arthur Schwartz's Jewish Home Cooking: Yiddish Recipes Revisited
Sales Rank: 556 3/30/08
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Arthur-Sc.../?cds2Pid=16983
Jon Gold and his ilk are still at it promoting Steve
Alten's "The Shell Game". You would think that Jon's
parents, Fred and Rose, would have raised him better
than to shill for the U S Government by promoting
fictional planes and hijackers. But then Steve Alten
needs all the help he can get with a Barns & Noble
sales rank of 9,261. At the sales rank of 556, Arthur
Schwartz's "Jewish Home Cooking" is selling 1,665% better!
http://911blogger.com/node/14601#comment-181103
The Shell Game by Steve Alten
Sales Rank: 9,261 3/30/08
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Shell...99550947/?itm=1
Arthur Schwartz's Jewish Home Cooking: Yiddish Recipes Revisited
Sales Rank: 556 3/30/08
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Arthur-Sc.../?cds2Pid=16983
LIHOPPERS and Their Human Shields
Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2008-04-09 11:28.
WeAreChange meets Rosie O'Donnell with Daniel Sunjata
First responders and victims' families are not what these people are really into--they use them as goodwill tools for their own limited hangout agenda. Note in the comments Jon Gold tries to sucker Rosie into attending his Keene on LIHOP Simposium.
Sickening. Now I know what their response to this will be (one of them anyway) and that is "What have YOU done for first responders and the victims' families?" Being able to throw that in the face of those who criticize their LIHOP crap is one big reason why they do the little they do for the aforementioned victims of 9/11--don't doubt that for one second. My answer is of course that fighting LIHOP scumbags and exposing their deceit and hypocrisy in an effort to expose the whole truth about 9/11 over the obnoxious and shrill attention whores and their LIHOP limited hangout agenda is what I have done and will continue to do for all the real victims of 9/11 whom I would not dream of exploiting in the process as some people find it so easy to do.
All on my own time with my own money, NOT selling crap like Alex Jones, NOT accepting advertising from McCain for President like 911Blogger does, NOT by quitting my day job to live off of truthing, i.e. off the deaths and suffering of hundreds of thousands.
Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2008-04-09 11:28.
WeAreChange meets Rosie O'Donnell with Daniel Sunjata
First responders and victims' families are not what these people are really into--they use them as goodwill tools for their own limited hangout agenda. Note in the comments Jon Gold tries to sucker Rosie into attending his Keene on LIHOP Simposium.
Sickening. Now I know what their response to this will be (one of them anyway) and that is "What have YOU done for first responders and the victims' families?" Being able to throw that in the face of those who criticize their LIHOP crap is one big reason why they do the little they do for the aforementioned victims of 9/11--don't doubt that for one second. My answer is of course that fighting LIHOP scumbags and exposing their deceit and hypocrisy in an effort to expose the whole truth about 9/11 over the obnoxious and shrill attention whores and their LIHOP limited hangout agenda is what I have done and will continue to do for all the real victims of 9/11 whom I would not dream of exploiting in the process as some people find it so easy to do.
All on my own time with my own money, NOT selling crap like Alex Jones, NOT accepting advertising from McCain for President like 911Blogger does, NOT by quitting my day job to live off of truthing, i.e. off the deaths and suffering of hundreds of thousands.