somebigguy said:
Hey Emcee, regarding the fires in WTC7 being caused by falling debris, there is no mention of fire, or any sign of fire in WTC7 until an hour before the collapse. The towers fell between 10-10:30 AM and the fires didn't occur in WTC7 until late in the afternoon. Like I said, there was no mention of anything going on downtown after the collapses and they had the cameras trained on the site all day, nothing going on but dust from the collapses.
Another note, several witnesses, including Giuliani, mentioned exiting the towers through another building which makes me think they were connected underground. Based on this, it wouldn't be too difficult for the necessary parties to get in and out of WTC7 undetected.
Thanks SBG. Just as I thought - WTC7 wasn't clearly damaged or showing signs of obvious bad predicament save for the multiple fires within. They give the
damage from falling debris excuse because such damage wasn't captured by the media. The newsmen weren't gathered around WTC7 and covering its demise because no obvious signs of major damage attracted their hordes.
Pocket fires burning for less than 2 hours felled a 47-storey steel framed structure?
again...WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
I have no doubt that WTC7 was command and control for the cock-suckers who pressed the demolition switches. They were in there listening to the firemen's radio chatter and waiting until the right moment. They were forced to alter their plans, IMHO.
Think about this folks - WTC2 goes down before WTC1?
The north tower was hit dead-center 18 minutes before the south tower was hit off-center, with
much of it's ignited kerosene blasting out of WTC2's north-east facade, for maximum psy-ops effect of course.
Although WTC2 was hit lower and a greater mass remained above the damaged area, is this the reasonable explanation for WTC2 collapsing to dust before the earlier damaged WTC1? Are you kidding me?!!
WTC1 was hit dead center and looked to be suffering quite a blow from the fires within. They tell us that the fires in both towers reached the necessary temps required for the steel supports to soften(now in place of melted) leading to the collapse.
Somehow, with greater speed and effect, the ignited kerosene in WTC2, that didn't burn up outside, was plenty enough to bring down the very tower that had been hit 18 minutes after the first strike on WTC1. Not only that, WTC1 collapsed almost a half-hour later!!
Here's what I believe happened without a doubt...
As the perps listened in to the firefighters' communications, they clearly heard that firemen in the south tower had reached the damaged floors and were engaging the fires. Without the "raging infernos hot enough to melt steel supports" the whole cover-story would be fucked beyond explanation.
"Yeah confirm that...A company has reached the area and is engaging the fire..."
"Oh no, oh shit...they made it up...they're gonna put the fire out in no time!!! We gotta level it now!!"
"But sir, if we take down that tower first, people are going to ask a lot of questions!"(logical assumption even for the American public)
"Those fires can't be put out!!! Do it now, do it now...we'll figure something out later!!!"
Down goes WTC2 not a second later, bringing the world's shock to an all-time high. In the ensuing verbal exchanges and reasoning between those controlling the demolitions, almost a half hour passes before they collect themselves and bring down WTC1 - even by then, the firefighters inside had yet to make it up to the fires, so effective was the induced blockage of their access routes.
The boys then gather up their gear and initiate the arson procedures to produce the "infernos" needed to make WTC7 go away quietly. Back door? I'm thinkin connecting tunnels that no blue-prints featured, as SBG mentioned.
On top of the Command-and-Control bunker in WTC7 that needed immediate destruction, I've heard that the building also housed various gov't documents of interest which needed to be destroyed if National Security was to remain intact. National, of course, has nothing to do with our safety, speaking more for the scum who pulled 9/11 off on their own people.
The collapse sequence all ads up as logical only if one takes these possibilities into account.
or
If one is incapable of independent thought and buys without question, the lame, simplistic
the second tower fell first because it had more mass above the damaged floors, you moron...god you people are fucked up!! excuse...er...explanation.
They fucked up this live presentation royaly and must be amazed at how their pre-9/11 estimation of the American public's collective smarts was well below their most lofty assumptions.
Shock & Awe has a long shelf life when seasoned with fear and hate during the aging process. Throw in the absurd colour-coded Terror Alert system on the side, and top it all of with a fine bottle of vintage Republican Rhetoric(good for an 8 year serving), and here we remain. Some of us have excused ourselves from the feast of fear, vomited violently soon after, and have vowed to never return. The majority remain gobbling up dish after dish, not wanting to hear anything discrediting the 5-star rating of their favorite eatery.
Mmmmmm, good.
