Former Cleveland Mayor Reported Flight 93 Landed at Cleveland Airport on 9/11 and Flight 175 in Vicinity. Cincinnati WCPO TV Cover-ups Why Account Removed From Web Site
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles...8131/37079.htm
wow, has anyone heard about this story?
and if so, how is it to be taken? is there anything to it, or is it a fake?
any other news on this in the states?
Tired...
I don't believe anything that comes from arcticbeacon at first glance. I always try to verify what he says.
ok gold,
my being in germany, i'm not really up to date with the media in the states any more, so that's why i wanted to hear what you guys there made of the whole thing...
but if he really did come out with something along these lines...would be big shit, huh?
Tired...
Of course it would... but now try to verify it...
what's with this greg symanski guy....is he known to you all ?
what's his rep..
sorry...Szymanski
Tired...
Some of his stuff is a little outlandish...
For a start the archive.org link Syzwhathisname put up is wrong: the link is actually
http://web.archive.org/web/200307100...l/story14.html
But he's right, it doesn't say anything about it being an AP Wire story.
I just got through reading the whole story. It fits is all I can say. I had heard about a plane switch at Cleveland many moons ago. If its true that a high ranking Congressman called him that is interesting. Somehow I think this is about to break open. There are some interesting stories concerning the Patholigist in Pennsylvania the one who was to be in charge of the autopsies. He will not do any interviews. What happened to the people on 93?
I have more.... I have become friends with John McCarthy (you can read about him on From The Wilderness here) http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/hall/Mac.html
This is a PM I had with him a few months back and he thinks alot of Greg Szymanski,Mike Ruppert and John Kaminski.I am not sure what to think about the plane switch. I have come to believe that this happened and that the passengers were led to believe they were going to continue on their flight to L.A. (Theory)In actuality they were placed on a flight to a very friendly Uzbekistan who disposes of the troublemakers/bombers in the Middle East.
Here was my questions / and his answers.
Aceace wrote:
I read many many authors/blogs etc and one of them is John Kaminski. I'm sure you have heard of him. He believes that Mike Ruppert is a shill for the Oil industry because he promotes the Peak Oil scenario. Obviously, Kaminski thinks the world has plenty of oil. I do not agree with this. The US reached peak in the early 70's and increased oil imports. Which caused the Arab oil embargo, gas crisis etc.
I guess my question is this: Was the oil crisis 1970's faked to protect and preserve Americas oil thereby using up the arab oil and other supplies ? Do you think Mike Ruppert is a shill for the oil companies ? Is there an oil crisis in your opinion ? I believe it is very real crisis and that there are efforts underway for population reduction worldwide. I guess I just don't know for sure and would like to hear someones opinion who knows more about the inner workings of Govt.
John McCarthy wrote:
Was the oil crisis in the seventies legitimate....no. I was in Houston in 1979. My neighbor was a pilot working for the oil industry. While flying resupplies to oil rigs south of Houston in 1973, he observed 'hundreds' of huge oil tankers 'lying low in the water' (full, so they were 'inbound') about 35 miles beyond the horizen, unseen from land or the casual flight along the coast. Houston, at that time, had about 60% of the nation's oil refining capacity. It sat idle as well.
The price of gas at the pump went from about .50 cents per gallon to $1.10 in a week. I was in Miami at the time, and remember the panic well. The price never went back down although it did remain around the dollar mark for quite a while. People adjusted, shrugged their collective shoulders and moved on to other things. But I think the latest crisis is causing a bit more concern.
Today the price of gas in Needles, California, is $3.05 per gallon, at the pump. When I left Los Angeles it was hovering around $2.48 per gallon at the pump. Hey, a great title for a book on this subject; AT THE PUMP!
Strangely enough, I visited Germany last November for three weeks. I am presently back in Germany since mid May, returning to Los Angeles next week. The price of gas at the pump, while higher than in the States, has fluctuated five cents per liter, or .20 cents per gallon during that time, but has returned to it's original price. Germany imports most of it's gasoline.
During the same time frame, gas at the pump in California has INCREASED by up to $1.10 per gallon, and we manufacture it there. Something is very wrong with this picture.
It would be interesting to know the price flutuation of gas at the pump, regardless of whether it is sold by the liter or the gallon, around the world during this same time frame! Perhaps the CIA's World Book has that information.....
Is there an oil crisis today....yes, but only because of the real and anticipated demand of China which has a tremendous appetite for oil which can only continue to grow exponentially!
During discussions on this subject back in 1979, my neighbor informed me that a program had been in effect in America for many years whereby the oil companies were offered the incentive of tax free costs of drilling for oil and selling that same oil IF they left a cetain percent of the oil at the site, reserves you might say, and an incentive to go on to other sites for drilling and extraction. That oil is still there, untapped. I don't know if the percentage for tax incentives was ever greater than 30% left in the wells. Therefore, any legitimate worldwide oil crisis could be addressed.
A solution to address such a crisis would be to prompt China to invade Taiwan creating an excuse to defend another 'democracy' and BOMB China, thereby deminishing the requirement for all that oil to fill all those cars. That is not my solution, mind you, but the mentality of those who pull the strings. Thats what happened to Japan before WWII. We cut off their oil because they would not get out of China. Not because they invaded China, but because they would not leave. The same mentality prevails today. ANY excuse for a war! Basta ya!
Is Mike Ruppert a shill for the oil companies....nah.
Mike attacks anyone who he sees to be profiteering off the backs of Ameicans. That is his raison d'etre. He portrays that image. You should see what he wrote about AIG, the insurance giant. I believe he still has that series of articles archived on his site, http://www.fromthewilderness.com He digs like a dog after a bone and won't let go. Mike is not perfect and has his ways about him that sometimes rub folks the wrong way. But, if you get the chance to read Crossing the Rubicon, I think you will have to agree he does his research to back up his conclusions. Many folks have taken pot shots at Mike. That goes with the territory. Especially the targets of his works. But they use anonymous sources to castigate him. He is in demand and speaks all over the world. I guess everybody has to be someplace, eh? People do disagree with Mike's conclusions on Peak Oil, but no one has yet to say his research is faulty.
He was kind enough to mention me twice in his book. That was a surprise. He hadn't told me in advance. Someone on one of the forums asked someone else if I was the same John McCarthy in Mike's book as I had been posting on that forum at the time.
I guess one could construe Mike's comments as complimentary....
Strangely enough, John Kaminski has told me that he would like to write an article or a book about me, when he has 'time'.....but so did Greg Szymanski....I guess the Polish folks like what I have to say, eh? Greg lives in Ventura, just a short drive up the coast, and we are going to get together after I return to LA. He has already left messages for me to call him when I get back. His web site is "The Arctic Beacon". http://www.arcticbeacon.com
Bests,
John
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