It is true. Name one civilization that didn't have a theocratic based government when it began, besides america.
It is true. Name one civilization that didn't have a theocratic based government when it began, besides america.
I think America did ...Originally Posted by jetsetlemming
it just wasn't the Church of England, which is what they didn't want to be a part of.
look at a huge amount of our laws ... how many of them are based in Puritan ideals?
when the founding fathers created this country, and separated church and state, they didn't intend to remove God and religion from the government. The idea of not involving God in their daily lives was unheard of at the time.
look at our money, it says 'in God we trust' The pledge of Allegiance references God. Almost every one of our national songs pays homage in some form to God ...
not true.
They only contradict if you happen to subscribe to a faith that takes every word of the bible as the literal truth.
There are several Christian faiths that have no issues with science
But here's the point, most of those civilizations did not evolve when religion was involved.
And I take back what I said about religion and policits being mixed. Many govnt's around the world have no problem with it. It doesnt really matter to me as long as the govenrment doesnt impose there views on anyone else. Especially in America because one the main pillars of our govt is the seperation between church and state.
Here's an example of what I mean: Christian fundemntalist want to start introducing "intellegent design" into our schools right along side evolution. They belive the world was created in 7 days, and man right after. They don't belive in evolution. Stem cell research is another thing they don't like. And a few others.
There you go lumping all christians together... Its the most diverse religon on earth, and yet everybody likes to make lump statements about it...
I didn't say all Christians, I said "Christian fundemntalists" (look up fundamentalist you don't know what it means). More specifically, I'm refereing to they type of fundementalists who want to impose there way of life and thinking on everyone else. I have no problem if someone is super religious, I think it's great. But I have a problem when senators or religious groups start going after Howard Stern, and now I'm gonna have to pay to listen to him. I mean these guys were about to go after the porn industry before 9/11. As a matter of fact, there going after porn right now. I didn't lump all Christians togther, i just critized the ones who claim to be morally superior than all of us and want to impose there views on society.
I'm aware of those beliefs, and I disagree with them.
however, I also happen to be a Christian, and I felt your original statement suggested all Christians felt that way.
Do you agree that the world was created in 7 days, and that man and women where created right after?
To me, in religion, you either take the whole cake or not at all
And don't get me wrong, I'm not insulting you or anyone who is religous. I'm very religious myself. What I'm saying is, I don't appreciate someone imposing there religious beliefs on me.
The wonderful thing about Christianity is that there pretty much is no whole cake you've got to force down. There are so many sects and different enitities that you can have your own beliefs and not have everything decided for you. There are Christians (for the most part, it's the Protestant sects that offer all the diversity) that believe in science, that believe in evolution (as a tool of God), there are Chirstians that believe in (gasp!) free speech. The "whole cake" for Christianity is just belief in God, his power, and Jesus as the messiah. That is the absolute only lump statement you can make about Christians, because it's far too diverse a group to get anything else that fits every one of them (even the "fundamentalists").
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