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  1. #1
    PhilosophyGenius Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by somebigguy
    Lets not forget he claims to speak to God and God told him to attack Afghanistan and Iraq and is undoubtedly telling him to attack Iran, Syria, Venezuela and any other country that just happens to have oil.

    There is a reason for a separation of church and state, its to keep bible thumping fools who think god is talking to him from making stupid decisions the rest of the country has to pay for.

    Do you believe Bush was behind 9/11?
    Also, the bible and science contradict, so what we're seeing is the rolling back of scientific thinking in exchange for philosophy that's thousands of years old.

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    danceyogamom Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius
    Also, the bible and science contradict, so what we're seeing is the rolling back of scientific thinking in exchange for philosophy that's thousands of years old.
    not true.

    They only contradict if you happen to subscribe to a faith that takes every word of the bible as the literal truth.

    There are several Christian faiths that have no issues with science

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    PhilosophyGenius Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by danceyogamom
    not true.

    They only contradict if you happen to subscribe to a faith that takes every word of the bible as the literal truth.

    There are several Christian faiths that have no issues with science
    Here's an example of what I mean: Christian fundemntalist want to start introducing "intellegent design" into our schools right along side evolution. They belive the world was created in 7 days, and man right after. They don't belive in evolution. Stem cell research is another thing they don't like. And a few others.

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    jetsetlemming Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius
    Here's an example of what I mean: Christian fundemntalist want to start introducing "intellegent design" into our schools right along side evolution. They belive the world was created in 7 days, and man right after. They don't belive in evolution. Stem cell research is another thing they don't like. And a few others.
    There you go lumping all christians together... Its the most diverse religon on earth, and yet everybody likes to make lump statements about it...

  5. #5
    PhilosophyGenius Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by jetsetlemming
    There you go lumping all christians together... Its the most diverse religon on earth, and yet everybody likes to make lump statements about it...
    I didn't say all Christians, I said "Christian fundemntalists" (look up fundamentalist you don't know what it means). More specifically, I'm refereing to they type of fundementalists who want to impose there way of life and thinking on everyone else. I have no problem if someone is super religious, I think it's great. But I have a problem when senators or religious groups start going after Howard Stern, and now I'm gonna have to pay to listen to him. I mean these guys were about to go after the porn industry before 9/11. As a matter of fact, there going after porn right now. I didn't lump all Christians togther, i just critized the ones who claim to be morally superior than all of us and want to impose there views on society.

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    danceyogamom Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius
    Here's an example of what I mean: Christian fundemntalist want to start introducing "intellegent design" into our schools right along side evolution. They belive the world was created in 7 days, and man right after. They don't belive in evolution. Stem cell research is another thing they don't like. And a few others.
    I'm aware of those beliefs, and I disagree with them.

    however, I also happen to be a Christian, and I felt your original statement suggested all Christians felt that way.

  7. #7
    PhilosophyGenius Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by danceyogamom
    I'm aware of those beliefs, and I disagree with them.

    however, I also happen to be a Christian, and I felt your original statement suggested all Christians felt that way.
    Do you agree that the world was created in 7 days, and that man and women where created right after?

    To me, in religion, you either take the whole cake or not at all

    And don't get me wrong, I'm not insulting you or anyone who is religous. I'm very religious myself. What I'm saying is, I don't appreciate someone imposing there religious beliefs on me.

  8. #8
    danceyogamom Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius
    Do you agree that the world was created in 7 days, and that man and women where created right after?

    To me, in religion, you either take the whole cake or not at all

    And don't get me wrong, I'm not insulting you or anyone who is religous. I'm very religious myself. What I'm saying is, I don't appreciate someone imposing there religious beliefs on me.
    I think the question is ... how can a mere mortal like me possibly grasp the concept of time as it applies to God?

    a day to me is 24 hours. There have been several different measurements of time throughout humanity's history ... why would God be on the same time clock as DYM, living in the central time zone?

    Moses lived to be over 500 ... but of course, they measured their years differently.

    stories have been used as teaching tools for as long as humanity has been communicating. Aesop's lessons are no less valuable even if the story itself isn't 100% true.

    no different with Genesis.

  9. #9
    PhilosophyGenius Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by danceyogamom
    I think the question is ... how can a mere mortal like me possibly grasp the concept of time as it applies to God?

    a day to me is 24 hours. There have been several different measurements of time throughout humanity's history ... why would God be on the same time clock as DYM, living in the central time zone?

    Moses lived to be over 500 ... but of course, they measured their years differently.

    stories have been used as teaching tools for as long as humanity has been communicating. Aesop's lessons are no less valuable even if the story itself isn't 100% true.

    no different with Genesis.
    very good point, but you belive that dinosours existed? or that evolution occured? cuz supposedly God created man right after earth

    and also, there are factual errors in the bible. there were no slaves in Egypt and the egyptian army was never destroyed.

    ... ...

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