Whoever voted 'yes' on this poll should be molested by Michael Jackson immediatly for "rehabilitation".
Whoever voted 'yes' on this poll should be molested by Michael Jackson immediatly for "rehabilitation".
put simply, why would you want to..the straight answer is no...not unless youwant a conlict which will drag on for years to come.
the U.S. has made enough mistakes, it is time to step back and assess what we are doing in the world and why.
no, why should we. we need to fight a war on poverty and ignorance right here in america in stead of looking to fight others and avoiding our own short comings as a people.
Muhammad
http://stono2.blogspot.com/
No!
Honestly, I believe that the world in general, is getting tired of the "strong-arm" tactics of the U. S. government. If we ever hope to come to peaceful terms with the others who occupy this planet, we had better start to learn some diplomatic manners. Pretty soon, these other countries who feel that they have nothing to lose will do something drastic out of feelings of frustration and hopelessness. They will figure if they are going to "lose" they might as well take as many with them as possible.
As for the draft, on one hand it is an extremely bad idea. Simply because, from apolitical stand point, those who are already in the military cannot refuse to fight, as they joined "voluntarily." However, on the other hand, if the government, in their single-minded pursuit of "whatever it is behind their motives", does force a draft...can you imagine how many, how loudly, and how violently the demonstrations would be. CNN and FOX would not be able to mislead or non-report such demonstrations, as those that would occur to such an extent no one would be able to keep it hush hush. I think the Voice of the American people would be heard loud and clear on that...
I have 3 teenagers...15, 16, and 17..and you can guarantee I would be right there on the front line of that demonstration...if my children had to go, then every single one of those Congressmen/women and Senators children had better be standing right next to mine, and that would also include Cheney and Bush's children...period.
Do not expect or demand me (or the rest of Americans) to make sacrifices you would be unwilling to make.
Sometimes that doesn't work. Sometimes there is no alternative but to stand up to tyrrany*. I think the problem here is, our government is the worst of ALL terrorists combined. WE have to start HERE and get this out of control animal back to "for the people" before we can expect them to do anything right.
If we ever hope to come to peaceful terms with the others who occupy this planet, we had better start to learn some diplomatic manners.
Heh, spoken like someone in the target age... Or has kids that are. I think it's a great idea. As long as the system used to figure whose drafted is not as corrupt as everything else. Then you would see politicians children being drafted. As well as more of the upper class. I think they KNOW what a pressure cooker that would be, thus wont be starting a draft anytime soon. (Plus, I'm pretty sure you'd see the absolute lynching of GWB if he tried that, another reason I'm all for it.)As for the draft, on one hand it is an extremely bad idea.
Pro side to it...it would galvanize the American people into action...by whatever means were necessary to put an end to this BS, once and for all. We would not stand idly by and watch our family and children be forced into a situation we know is wrong.
Con side...if it is as crooked as we think, or worse...then it would be the catalyst that would force the American Public to attempt to stand up the those in Power...and may result in the final fall of Civilian Rights...with Martial Law being enacted..and everyone forced to fight...here and there...
what a mess!!!
I didnt know you were on right now... I say trash the entire thing. Storm the whitehouse and take this country back by force... I'd rather see YOU as president than anyone on the menu these days. I am sooooo sick of reading about this system, and how corrupt it is. I fought in Iraq for these bloodthirsty animals, and thought it was the right thing to do. Now that I know how fulla shit they are, I'm OK with spilling some of THEIR blood now. Come get me fuckers, I'm really losin it today!
Originally Posted by AuGmENTor
AuGmENTor
I would agree with you on spilling George's blood and that of the other jerks in washington, accept for one thing, the problem with an eye for an eye is that everyone winds up blind in the end.
let me say it plane, there is NO war on terror!, There is only a war on you, the citizen, a war on your senses, on your sense of right and wrong, an assult on your fears and most dearly held bigotries.
Fear has always been used to controll populations and make them do things and accept states of affirs they would not normally do, that is why i think 9/11 was a hugh inside job, or atleast an event yoked to the service of the elites.
The men in DC are children, they have no experience of war but play at war making, thye think they are Winston churchill and FDR fighting the good war, its all BS. never follow a man to war who only wants you to fight it for him.
We know the names of the 3000 dead americans of 9/11 and the around 3000 dead US soilders, but do we know the manes of the dead of iraq and afghanistan?
NO. why, because they do not matter to us, to americans!
This business of hiding the returning dead, of khowing the number of dead iraqis but not their names , their faces and details about THEIR lives distances us, disassociates us from THEIR humanity and our!!
Making it easier for us to make the same stupid mistakes with IRAN, a country with a REAL army, a country 3 time the size of iraq, wiath a young health population that actually like the west, they won't lie us when we start bombing i think. So , let do the cenario, the the dry drunk in the white house send us to war with iran, iran shuts off the oil, oil prices rise world wide, other country in the region begin sending insurgents in the iran to fight, the violence against U.S. force in iraq explodes like never before, corporate america drop bush like a hot potato and we elect obmama or hillery, the war kills thaousands and ruins any credability we MAY have had, major oil economys are ruined, trillions of dollars lost, you pay at the pump through the nose and all because a bunch of petrolcrats want to control oil...NO
If we follow this fool Bush this time on Iran, we get what we deserve.
Until we get off our buts and impeach bush we are as gulity as he for the crimes done in our name. We impeached Clinton for chasing girls in the white house, 40 million was spent, not one dime to impeach bush has been spent by our government yet, why? We invade a country for oil with a thin vale of democracy as our excuse, we protect the oil ministry instead of doing what we said we were doing there, promoting democracy.
Suppose when we marched into Bagdad we announced that anyone who wanted to could become an american citizen??
I cannot tell you how long that line would have been but you can guess.
Suppose we entered Afghanistan and handed out billions, not millions, but billions in farm aid to give farmers a crop to replace poppy, and immediatly began rebuilding the capital, no U.S. guns in sight??
Possible, impossible?
Suppose we entered Bagdad and instead of fighting, we put down our arms and opened hundreds of food line and medical tents- hearts and minds?
Feed them and you can lead them?
This is what people spreding democracy do!!!
I could go on and on here, but you get the point I Think. AuGmENTor. as one who has served under the shadow of lie fostered by our government you now have a golden opportunity to tell others what you know, you have credit as a soilder and street cred for speaking up honestly about your feelings, don't stop there.
take care.
Chatke1
I know you're right, and what a good post. I'm having one of these days where I just wanna smash things and make these guys pay for the lies they have told, and the murders they have committed. I don't think any amount of blooging, lobbying, or anything short of armed conflict is going to put us back in control. No amount of talking for that matter either. Being an idiot, my first instinct is to shoot people. And it's the only thing I personally think will work. There are people who have been in this movement for YEARS, and I wonder if they can post right here what kind of quantifiable results can be shown behind the truth movement... Other than a few arcane polls that show more of us believe something is being covered up that is...
Dear AuGmENTor
I am glad to hear you are managing your anger, you are not alone, while you may be suffering from your experiences in iraq or afghanistan, the rest of us are boiling slowly in a tub of hot water called america, you are right, blogging by itself is not an end but only a means to it, eventually, someone with the free time and money, like a Cindy Shehan will park their butts in fornt of the white house and start demanding an impeachment hearing be made, or they may even start a mock hearing at a press confrence or online and invite the senators to attend. Look around AuGmENTor, all the dictators of the ages eventually died out , were killed, went into excile or went to prision, Bush and his mob are no different, and like all those monsters all the damage he did when he was alive will be undone when he dies, there is some justice in that atleast.
As for you, keep controlling your anger and using bloging to channel you anger, the prisons and grave yards are full of men who do not know how to control them selves.
chatke1
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