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    The 9/11 Tapes

    'U.S. said to have tapes of alleged 9/11 mastermind plotting with co-conspirators

    https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...FdNoimh40sOAR4

    By Carol Rosenberg
    The New York Times
    Mon., March 25, 2019

    GUANTÁNAMO BAY, CUBA—Military prosecutors say they have tapes of telephone calls between the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and three of his accused co-conspirators talking in code about the plot months before it took place, a defence lawyer disclosed Monday.

    The lawyer, Jay Connell, revealed the existence of the tapes as part of a protest over plans to use them as evidence at the death-penalty trial of the alleged conspirators. More than 17 1/2 years after the attacks — in which 19 hijackers commandeered four commercial airplanes and crashed them into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field, killing nearly 3,000 people — there is still no date set for the trial in the proceedings at Guantánamo Bay.


    Accused 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed appears in this courtroom sketch at his military commission hearing in Guantanamo Bay. Military prosecutors say they have tapes of telephone calls between Mohammed and three of his accused co-conspirators

    Prosecutors gave defence lawyers the original audio and transcripts of their translation on Sept. 30, 2016, Connell said, and made clear they planned to use them at trial. Defense lawyers sought to investigate their origins and later discovered that the original trial judge, Army Col. James L. Pohl, had issued a secret order preventing them from knowing about the phone call collection system or asking questions about it.

    Connell, who is representing Mohammed’s nephew, Ammar al-Baluchi, said prosecutors secretly obtained a ruling in August 2018 from Pohl forbidding defence lawyers from learning how the phone calls were collected or investigating that question. The phone calls in at least two languages were made between April and October 2001.

    Connell said the restriction on investigating the origins of the tapes violated a defendant’s basic right to challenge the evidence being used against him. He argued in court Monday that the evidence should be suppressed or that the case should be dismissed. He said the constraints the defence faces regarding the tapes violate the Sixth Amendment, which sets out the rights of defendants in a trial.

    The military trial judges have yet to decide, however, which aspects of the Constitution apply at the military commissions, the war court established by President George W. Bush after the terrorist attacks.

    A prosecutor, Clayton Trivett, responded that defence lawyers would be allowed to question an FBI linguist who compared samples of the voices of the defendants to the voices on the tapes to confirm they were Mohammed, al-Baluchi and two other alleged plotters.

    Trivett said defence lawyers would be allowed to question an FBI analyst who decoded the conversation. The only restriction, he said, is on defence lawyers trying to investigate “how the United States government got those calls,” something prosecutors convinced the judge would endanger national security.

    Pohl had said prosecutors could describe the evidence as having been acquired from “telephone calls from between April and October 2001 that were later determined to pertain to the planned attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.”

    Terry McDermott, co-author of The Hunt for KSM, said his research found that U.S. satellites “randomly scooped up” calls between Mohammed and an alleged deputy, Ramzi Binalshibh. “The NSA intercepted calls but didn’t listen to them or translate them until after 9/11,” he said. “Afterward, they went through this stuff and found out what it was.”

    Trivett did not disclose how or when the FBI got voice samples of the accused plotters. Connell questioned in court whether they were recorded during the years Mohammed and the other the defendants were held in the CIA’s secret prison system.

    Trivett announced that the samples were not from the CIA black sites where the five alleged plotters were held before they were brought to Guantánamo for trial in 2006.

    This week a new military judge, Col. Keith Parrella of the Marines, is hearing lawyers and prosecutors argue in the 34th round of pretrial hearings since the five men were arraigned in 2012.
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    Lorie Van Auken, whose husband was killed at the World Trade Center, asks why the existence of the plotters’ phone calls has been concealed until now.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/o...inB1kS1PFKZ-ds

    March 26, 2019


    The tapes featuring Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and three of his accused co-conspirators were made between April and October 2001, prosecutors say.

    To the Editor:

    Re “U.S. Said to Have Recordings of Alleged Sept. 11 Mastermind Talking About Plot” (news article, March 26):

    Are the prosecutors actually saying there exist tapes of calls made in April to October of 2001, but divulged to defense lawyers only in 2016, that reveal the attack planning that have been kept secret from us until now? And that the calls’ origins, methods of collecting them and chain of custody can’t be examined?

    One would have thought that the 9/11 Commission might have unearthed any 9/11 planning calls back in 2003 or 2004, when we family members were publicly pleading for this type of evidence. Why did it take until 2016 to mention the existence of these tapes? What was the National Security Agency doing with the tapes all this time?

    In what kind of code were the planners speaking? Will we ever get to hear the tapes or read the transcripts? We are in the 34th round of pretrial hearings and still no actual date has been set for the trial. Which parts of the Constitution apply?

    Maybe someone else besides us will finally take notice of these outrageous kangaroo court proceedings happening at Guantánamo.

    Lorie Van Auken
    New York
    The writer’s husband, Kenneth Van Auken, was killed at the World Trade Center on 9/11.
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    Over the years, I have made a couple of movies having to do with the NSA, and what I think ask the right questions. Here they are:

    The 9/11 Commission And The NSA:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TGTO_Ah5cE

    What The Hell Did The NSA Know About 9/11?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hptw3UoOTE

    NSA Whistleblower Bill Binney On 9/11
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgr1olmQ4pI

    Here's an article I wrote concerning one of the lies of 9/11:

    NSA Lied About Knowledge Of 2 9/11 Hijackers In U.S., Didn't Inform The FBI
    http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/sho...9186#post99186
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