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  1. #71
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    The Destruction Of CIA Interrogation Tapes

    To me, withholding these tapes from the 9/11 Commission, and then destroying them is an obvious crime. However, this isn't the first piece of 9/11 evidence that has been destroyed. There were FAA tapes destroyed. According to Curt Weldon, as reported by AP, "a Pentagon employee was ordered to destroy documents that identified Mohamed Atta as a terrorist two years before the 2001 attacks."

    I think the efforts by Zelikow, Kean, and Hamilton to badmouth the CIA are obviously an attempt at re-establishing any credibility they may have had, though, I don't see that as possible since they have none. I also think they are trying to make the CIA the "scapegoat" for 9/11. I do think the CIA should be investigated with regard to the attacks, but I certainly don't think we should stop with them (White House, NORAD, FAA, Secret Service, Pentagon, I'm looking in your direction).

    The media is focusing on the torture aspect of the tapes, but seems to be ignoring the question of what was on them. With few exceptions. Gerald Posner said that a source told him Zubaydah mentioned Saudi Arabia and Pakistani involvement or support for the 9/11 attacks. Someone else speculated about "Israeli participation" during the interrogations. I don't know what was on those tapes. I wasn't there. I believe Naomi Wolf said it best:

    "What we are likely to see if the tapes documenting the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah and Abd Al-Rahim Al-Nashiri are ever recovered is that the "confessions" of the prisoners upon which the White House has built its entire case for subverting the Constitution and suspending civil liberties in this country was obtained through methods such as electrocution, beating to the point of organ failure, hanging prisoners from the wrists from a ceiling, suffocation, and threats against family members ("I am going to find your mother and I am going to fuck her" is one direct quote from a US interrogator). On the missing tapes, we would likely see responses from the prisoners that would be obvious to us as confessions to anything at all in order to end the violence. In other words, if we could witness the drama of manufacturing by torture the many violently coerced "confessions" upon which the whole house of cards of this White House and its hyped "war on terror" rests, it would likely cause us to reopen every investigation, including the most serious ones (remember, even the 9/11 committee did not receive copies of the tapes); shut down the corrupt, Stalinesque Military Commissions System; turn over prisoners, the guilty and the innocent, into a working, accountable justice system operating in accordance with American values; and direct our legal scrutiny to the torturers themselves -- right up to the office of the Vice President and the President if that is where the investigations would lead."

    CIA Admits It Destroyed Tapes Of Interrogations

    C.I.A. Was Urged to Keep Interrogation Videotapes

    Bush: 'No recollection' of tapes

    9/11 Commission's Lee Hamilton '52 Reacts to CIA Destruction of Torture Tapes

    Inquiry into why CIA tapes destroyed

    CIA's destruction of terror tapes probed

    US intelligence under fire for CIA tapes, Iran report

    Preliminary inquiry into the destruction of videotapes by the CIA

    The facts behind the CIA tape inquiry

    Justice, CIA watchdog launch inquiry

    Probe into destroyed CIA interrogation videos begins

    CIA is accused of torture cover-up

    Senator seeks tougher CIA tapes inquiry

    White House goes mum on CIA video case

    Ex-CIA interrogator says waterboarding is torture

    Destruction of C.I.A. Tapes Cleared by Lawyers

    The Man Who Ordered CIA's Tape Destruction

    The CIA's Destroyed Interrogation Tapes and the Saudi-Pakistani 9/11 Connection

    Not many answers from CIA director

    CIA destroyed tapes despite court orders

    Was Pelosi aware of CIA's tactics?

    Which lie should we believe? CIA admits it destroyed evidence it said didn't exist.

    Torture tapes

    Justice Dept.: Back off on CIA tapes

    Hoekstra defies Bush administration, pledges investigation into destroyed CIA tapes

    Congress will defy Justice Dept. on destroyed CIA tapes; Harman: 'We're in Constitutional crisis'

    Judge Orders Hearing On CIA Interrogation Tapes

    What is Probably in the Missing Tapes

    Bush Lawyers Discussed Fate of C.I.A.Tapes

    Newspaper: Gonzales in on tape destruction talks

    New York Times Agrees to Story Correction on White House Role in Destroyed CIA Tapes

    House Judiciary witness: Destroyed CIA tapes are 'ultimate cover-up'

    Bush: My answer on when I learned about CIA tape destruction 'sounds pretty clear to me'

    Subpoena of CIA officials threatened

    White House faces hearing on CIA tapes

    Congress subpoenas ex-CIA official

    9/11 Panel Study Finds That C.I.A. Withheld Tapes

    CIA obstructed 9/11 investigators: report

    CIA spokesman says agency cooperated with 9/11 panel

    CIA chief to drag White House into torture cover-up storm

    Wagons circled at CIA over tapes' demise

    9/11 Commission chair: 'No question' CIA knew we wanted tapes

    CIA Says It Cooperated With 9/11 Panel

    CIA: rogue or victim in tapes flap?

    The C.I.A. Tapes: Our Need to Know

    CIA Tapes' Destruction Just Like Watergate

    Confessions of a Terrorist

    Details on why CIA tapes were made, destroyed

    Looking at America

    9/11 commission leaders blast CIA on interrogation tapes

    Stonewalled by the C.I.A.

    Mukasey: Criminal probe begins into CIA tapes

    Statement By 9/11 Family Member Donna Marsh O'Connor On The CIA Tapes

    Conyers Demands that DOJ Appoint Real Special Counsel

    Harman releases Feb. '03 letter warning CIA not to destroy tapes

    Will Justice Go After Cheney?

    Destruction of More Than C.I.A. Tapes

    More CIA torture videos

    Judge Won’t Inquire Into CIA Tapes Case

    Ex-C.I.A. Aide Won’t Testify on Tapes Without Immunity

    No Immunity, No Testimony

    Station Chief Made Appeal To Destroy CIA Tapes

    Tapes Destroyed Over CIA's Objections

    Lawmaker says CIA official defied instructions to preserve tapes

    House Panel Criticizes CIA Tape Destruction

    Who Will Take the Fall for the CIA Torture Tape Scandal?

    Judge wants answers on CIA videotapes

    C.I.A. Destroyed Tapes as Judge Sought Interrogation Data

    Official: FBI agents interrogated detainees separately from CIA

    AP Newsbreak: CIA destroyed 92 interrogation tapes

    CIA admits it destroyed 92 interrogation tapes

    Feds probably won't charge anyone for destroying CIA tapes

    CIA destroyed 12 tapes showing 'enhanced interrogation methods'

    CIA reveals it has 3,000 pages of documents relating to destroyed interrogation tapes

    Top CIA officials appear before jury over destruction of al-Qaida tapes

    Judge Rules CIA Can Suppress Information About Torture Tapes and Memos

    Key omission in memo to destroy CIA terror tapes

    Judge Rules CIA Can Withhold Info about Illegal Methods

    Secret terrorist tapes of 9/11 plotter Ramzi Binalshibh found under CIA desk
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG

  2. #72
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    More About The Environmental Impact Of 9/11

    Doctor Narrows Definition of 9-11 Death

    9/11 Responders Protest ME's Stand on Ground Zero Deaths

    Protests continue over classification of 9/11 deaths

    Pols Push Bill To Clarify Classification Of 9/11-Related Deaths

    Legislation requiring details of 9/11 rescue worker deaths to be introduced

    Feds target overseer of $1B 9/11 insurance fund fighting claims

    9/11 toxins tied to NYPD sergeant Michael Ryan's death

    Millstone businessman supports 9/11 workers

    Businessman set to walk length of Cape Cod for 9/11 charity fund

    Ex-Giant George Martin takes 9/11 walk

    Congress seeks more treatment for 9/11 workers in spending bill

    DOJ: Don't Blame Whitman for 9/11 Speech

    Christie Whitman lied about Ground Zero air quality, 9/11 victims' lawyers say


    Government's Post-9/11 Actions Questioned

    Court weighs 9/11 lawsuit

    Closing Arguments in Case Against the Former Head of the EPA

    Awaiting Decision of 9/11 Panel

    Students try to help 9/11 responders


    Lawmaker Pushes For Those Killed From 9/11-Related Illnesses

    Federal Government To Scrap Center For Those With 9/11 Health Issues

    NY lawmakers rally at ground zero against halting 9/11 funding

    National 9/11 health care plan halted

    Bush's EPA and the Post-9/11 Toxic Air Cover-Up


    A Giant cause

    Senate Approves Additional Funding For 9/11 Workers

    N.Y.C. Marathon big, FDNY 9/11 vet, dies


    9/11 Health Effects Persist


    NJN News Covers School Kids Raising Money For The FealGood Foundation

    9/11 responders left waiting by feds

    Father heads to Capitol for 9/11 responders

    What Giuliani Should Do Once He Drops Out of the Race

    NYC lawmakers call on Bush to fund 9/11 health programs

    City Lawmakers To Hold Rally For 9/11 Relief Workers

    Care for 9/11 Responders Is Piecemeal

    A WTC worker's silent State of the Union protest

    NY Lawmakers Shocked At Bush's 77% Cut In 9/11 Health Funding

    Bush's budget may cut 9/11 health funds

    City Council backs James Zadroga bill to help sick 9/11 responders

    John Feal On 2/16/2008 Money Bomb

    Illness-stricken 9/11 workers, families planning protest in Washington

    Fallen 9/11 hero's dad raises funds

    Heroes - or victims?

    WTC First Responders To Rally In Washington D.C.

    Fighting for health care

    Sick 9/11 first responders on trip to Washington

    9/11 responders demand health care funding

    Now Can We Talk About 9/11

    9/11 First Responders Rally In Washington D.C. - 2/26/2008

    The bell tolls for another hero of 9/11

    9-11 Responders Dying of Neglect

    Environmental Illnesses Haunt Some Who Covered 9/11

    Court Allows 9/11 Cleanup Crew Lawsuits To Proceed

    Court Clears Way for 9/11 Illness Lawsuit

    Second Circuit Rejects City And Contractors’ Immunity Arguments In World Trade Center Disaster Site Litigation

    Ground Zero 'hero' arrested at fund-raiser actually a fraud, officials say

    Some 9/11 victims weren't compensated


    NY courts forced to hear 9/11 lawsuits

    Former Head Of 9/11 Fund Wants To Compensate Sick WTC Workers

    Reps. Nadler, Lofgren Investigate Status of Compensation for 9/11 Illnesses

    GOP Rep. Darrell Issa under fire from everywhere after 9/11 comments

    GOP Rep. opposes sick Sept. 11 worker fund

    Lawmaker Criticized for 9/11 Comments

    Justice for Ground Zero worker

    The FealGood Foundation And WeAreChange Help Kevin O'Connor

    9/11 Truth Tuesdays First Donation To The FealGood Foundation

    A Little History On James Zadroga

    Condi's Killer Pen
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG

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    More About The Environmental Impact Of 9/11

    Sept. 11 charity investigated

    The Greatest Moment Of My Life

    Complaints Over 9/11 Health Continue


    NY appeals court: Whitman not liable in Sept. 11 air case

    Ex-EPA chief Christie Todd Whitman can't be held liable in 9/11 air case

    Rep. Nadler: Decision In 9/11 Lawsuit Highlights Need For Federal Action

    "Freedom Run" To Benefit 9/11 Responders - Motorcycle Rally And Festival At Liberty State Park

    9/11 "Wall Of Heroes" To Include Sick Cops

    NYPD Officers Killed by 9/11 Illnesses Honored on 'Wall of Heroes'

    Jenna Orkin On Flashpoints

    8 officers who died of post-9/11 illness on NYPD memorial

    New York Health Officials Reveal 360 Post 9/11 Workers Now Dead, 80 From Cancer

    360 post-9/11 workers have died, including 80 of cancer, says state

    Feds block 9/11 health care money

    Ex-Bush health chief's firm wins Sept. 11 work

    After Failing To Protect 9/11 First Responders From Toxic Threats, Thompson Awarded Contract To Treat Them

    Former Bush Official Criticized For His 9/11 Response Will Track WTC Workers' Health

    First Responders From 9/11 Gather For Day Of Remembrance

    9/11 workers hold first rally at World Trade Center

    Legislation Extends More Aid To 9/11 Workers

    Paterson wants to expand 9/11 disability benefits

    EPA whistleblower trial delves into 9/11 pollution coverup, toxic waste in fertilizer and more

    'Journey for 9/11' supports rescuers

    Agreement gives more 9/11 workers health benefits

    City Questions 9/11 Workers’ Claims of Illness

    New York Legislation To Expand Health Care Benefits For 9/11 Workers

    A Message From 9/11 First Responder John Feal

    Some Clarity From 9/11 First Responder John Feal

    Lawyers detail health problems from 9/11

    9/11 Workers Refute NYC’s Claim of Incomplete Medical Records

    EPA on Trial

    U.S. to Grant $30 Million for Civilians’ 9/11 Ailments

    9/11 AID MAY $ICK IT TO US

    Mayor To Testify On 9/11 Workers' Health Bill

    Kevin M. Delano, firefighter and 9/11 rescue worker


    Congress urged to fund care for 9/11 responders

    City cops head out for 9/11 motorcycle ride

    FealGood takes to film

    Documentary dedicated to late 9/11 first responder

    Lasting Effects of 9/11

    Local band raises $500 for 9/11 rescue workers at concert

    Congress Ends 9/11 Workers' Health Care Bill

    9/11 health bill opposed by NY mayor is shelved

    Many New York 9/11 Workers, Residents Still Sick

    9/11 First Responders Visit Buckhannon

    Sept. 11 First Responders to Visit W.Va. School

    Logistics Health blames feds for delays in aid to 9/11 responders

    Fassel Foundation donates $250K to 9/11 groups

    New health secretary Daschle must do the right thing for sick 9/11 responders

    Clinic for 9/11 responders opens

    9/11 Still Producing FDNY Casualties

    NYC adds man's cancer death to 9/11 victims' toll

    Study: 9/11 lung problems persist years later

    Study shows WTC link to lung woes

    Lung Problems Persist for 9/11 Responders

    Congress must finally fulfill America's obligation to the forgotten victims of September 11th
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG

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    Daniel Pearl

    Given recent events, I thought it would be prudent to post an archive on Daniel Pearl. The murder of Daniel Pearl is one of the things that piqued my curiosity early on.

    Here is an interesting talk on Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, and another by Paul Thompson.

    I believe the murder of Daniel Pearl is very much connected to 9/11.

    Militant Sentenced To Death In Pearl Case

    Suspect In Pearl Killing Arrested In Pakistan

    FBI Seeks Pearl Video Ban on Net

    HBO Documentary Traces Daniel Pearl Case

    Ex-State Department Security Officer Charges Pre-9/11 Cover-Up

    Pakistan Military Brass Knew In Advance That 9/11 Would Take Place

    Did Pearl Die Because Pakistan Deceived CIA?

    CIA paid money in exchange for terrorists: Pak

    Musharraf Suggests 9/11 Paymaster Was British Agent

    Ex-Pakistan Spy Chief Knew Of 9/11: Report

    President dubs alleged Pearl killer MI6 spy

    Pakistan And The Terror Nexus

    Revisiting A Tragedy

    Documentary on Pearl’s murder released

    HBO probes Daniel Pearl murder

    In a grim documentary, widow offers ray of hope

    U.S. May Charge Alleged 9/11 Leader With The Death Of Daniel Pearl

    Lecture Honors Daniel Pearl

    Daniel Pearl Documentary Fails To Live Up To Its Subject's Standards

    Hunting Al Qaeda Where?

    Pakistan Tops SA List In Killed Journalists

    U.S. Moves To Bring Accused 9/11 Plotters To Trial

    Operation 9/11 And General Musharraf's Counter-Blackmailing

    Sept. 11's Smoking Gun: The Many Faces Of Saeed Sheikh

    Court order in Khalid Sheikh case

    Guantanamo inmate claims beheading of Daniel Pearl

    Two former CIA officials: Pearl was on the trail of a 9-11 mastermind

    9/11 mastermind says he killed Daniel Pearl

    Experts dispute Sheikh’s claim about Pearl

    Lawyer to appeal Pearl case conviction

    Confession of 9/11 architect backfires on US

    Pearl Family Doubts KSM Confession

    US senators urge probe into 9/11 suspect's claims of abuse

    Officials: Mohammed exaggerated claims

    Can KSM's Confession Be Believed?

    ISI And The Wire Transfers Of 9/11

    9/11 funds came from Pakistan, says FBI

    Jolie Bans Fox From Premiere; Network Bashes Back

    Director Aims For Truth About Mariane And Daniel Pearl

    Pakistan Arrests Two Suspects In Daniel Pearl Case

    Seven Questions: Mariane Pearl

    Suspect In Murder Of U.S. Journalist Daniel Pearl Dies In Pakistan

    U.S. Officer Tells How Daniel Pearl Was Murdered

    The Daniel Pearl Murder -- Part 1: The Understanding

    Mariane Pearl Sues "Al-Qaeda" Over Husband's Killing

    Pearl widow sues Pakistani bank over husband's murder

    The Black Sites

    Alleged 9/11 Mastermind, 13 Others Closer To U.S. Military Trial

    Pentagon Censors Website Audio Of 9/11 Mastermind

    Who Was Daniel Pearl?

    Pearl Was Probing Spy Agencies' Role

    Retired Brigadier supervising Benazir's security was Osama's handler, says expert

    Osama's Handling Officer Was In Charge Of Benazir's Security

    The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence Agency News Bias

    CIA Station Chief Confirms Saeed Sheikh's ISI Connection

    “We Can’t Afford to Let Them Spill the Beans”: Sibel Edmonds on Marc Grossman

    Those Scarred By 9/11 Hope Trials Bring Justice

    Pentagon to challenge interview of 9/11 suspect

    Profile: Key 9/11 suspects

    Young Filmmaker Views 9/11 Without The Planes Crashing

    Inside a 9/11 Mastermind’s Interrogation

    The Real-Life "24" Of Summer 2008

    Indian Mujahideen Terror Linked To Organized Crime

    Omar Sheikh, A Childhood Friend Turned Pakistani Militant

    Cattle Smuggling: An Unlikely Source Of Funding Terror

    Glib Pakistan Talks Its Way Out Of Trouble

    Is There More To The Capture Of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed Than Meets The Eye?

    Pakistan says al-Qaeda group behind Marriot bombing in Islamabad

    Toying with terrorism

    Lashkar-e-Jhangvi blamed for Marriott hotel blast

    Pervez Musharraf Nailed Top Pakistani Terrorist and Kidnapper As MI6 Agent

    Pervez death threat

    Prison plot

    Jailed Al Qaeda Leader Behind Musharraf Death Plot

    Omar Saeed Sheikh plots assassination from Pakistani jail

    Plot to get Musharraf killed by suicide bomber unearthed

    Pakistani police uncover plot to murder Musharraf, report says

    Pearl's killer ran terror network from jail

    Group that threatened Musharraf dismantled

    Plot to kill Musharraf unearthed

    Links To Global Terror Network

    Reporter's Death Inspires A Seminar And A Lawsuit

    Taliban Say They Killed Polish Contractor in Pakistan

    Pak Taliban claims to have killed kidnapped Polish engineer

    Angry Poland accuses Pak of fostering terrorism

    Jihad Goes On In Pakistan

    Pakistan relocates man on death row for Pearl killing

    Pakistan shifts Pearl murder convict to Karachi

    Exclusive: 9/11 Grand Jury Now Hearing Evidence in NYC

    Dawood Is A Terrorist, Has "Strategic Alliance" With ISI, Says U.S.

    Wikileaks Cables Concerning Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh

    A Mighty Heart Talks About Omar Sheikh - Video Inside

    Excerpts From "A Mighty Heart"
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG

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