Gatekeeping Against The Concrete Core

[Christophera]

If you attempt to influence people with fluffenutter, they will ignore you.

Heh, they seem to be ignoring us anyway.

That is the reaction to conspiracy theories. Outright lies that are intrinsic to credible explanations of events are regarded diferently. Prove one, and you have peoples attentions. So far none deeply intrinsic to mihop have been shown.

[QUOTE=AuGmENTor]
Let me ask you another question: From the first person who questioned the official story, until the second you read these words, where have we gotten?

We have gotten deeper and deeper in to our collective reptilian pit of fear and the inherent dysfunction of it that the perps depend on.

What would an overall progress indicator show to represent what has happened since day 1 of this movement?

Conscious culture, .............. that understands itself and its purpose of cooperation based in understanding, sharing the truth with a lack of fear, honoring the purpose of truth.

(OK 2 questions) Next: What is the ultimate goal/ ideal solution? Do we just push till Bush and Co. swing? And then all goes back to normal? I don't ask this because I'm afraid I will have nothing to do if the movement ended. Indeed, I would prefer none of this existed. But it does, and like the other conspiracies I mentioned in my earlier post, I think that once THAT is proven, we just shift gears until ALL of this shit is fixed. But I kinda want to hear what someone elses thought is on this. I have asked this question dozens of times on this board, and you wouldn't believe how often it is just ignored. In fact, I dont think I have had it answered yet. (Gold kinda did, but he doesnt count {hehe, Jon})

The goal has nothing to do with bushco. The course of events will simply replace the entire gaggle. Their corruption is miniscule compared to our ignorance, that is how they were allowed to become so corrupt and still hold power. This has been true for a long time, but we were forced into it, generation after generation. There is good reason we are the way we are.

It has to do with us, the people (not that elite group who first coined the term)

We think we know what normal is. We don't. We have never been normal. We are terrified of normal, ....... so, ..........first thing to do is get over that. To do that we must get past the fearful ignorance.

Recall.

Within the current world view held by most people, yes. That view is based on what they know and this,

http://www.realityzone.com/hiddenagenda2.html

means that there is knowledge they don't have, but could have, that alters that world view in ways they won't believe until it happens.

Recovering enough of that knowledge to have respect for what was lost, it's value and what is irretrievable, then working to recreate it anew.

Remember John Fowles, or perhaps he quoted another.

Man shall never cease from exploration. And the end of all of his exploring shall be to arrive at the place where he began to know the place for the first time.

[Christophera]

In "Post Traumatic Readiness", I point out the need for a "gear shift". In other posts, I state that this is the PERFECT oppertunity to redefine EVERYTHING. That includes how we attend to our convicted criminals.
MY goal in the 9/11 Movement is along AuGmENTor's lines; this pushes the dominoes back all the way to the turn of the century. And I'm sure, Chris, that you've heard that America was planned as the new Freemason capitol of the world. Take it or leave it, it's just an indicator that 1950 was no specific starting point. You may want to check down in the paranormal basement about the "S.S."Titanic" anomalies and read Aceace's post.
It is my belief, that since (duh!) the 9/11 Truth Movement will break this thing wide open, senior members would be looked upon to conduct hearings, etc.....this opens a whole NEW can o'worms. I tend to heed the "elder's" advice; keep it simple, keep it reasonable, and make it so it's not frightening to the sheeple.
Bless you on your work.

Great stuff Royster,

Aceace
The Titanic piece was info I've been waiting to add to my page on the ship, here.

http://truthasaur.com/secret_history...jp_Morgan.html

I always knew there was more than I had found.

Check this one as well. A new image of the nail in the floor of Chartres.

http://truthasaur.com/secret_history..._chartres.html

Got to do some work now, but I'll return to comment further on your post later.

[Christophera]

I tend to heed the "elder's" advice; keep it simple, keep it reasonable, and make it so it's not frightening to the sheeple.
Bless you on your work.

What you are describing IS THE CONCRETE CORE ISSUE.

It is reasonable to relate analysis of free fall to strcutural design.

Concrete can be fractured to instantly fall, steel cannot. This is simple.

FEMA lies about the design/construction of the towers. This is not frightening.


Why they lied might be frigntening, but that comes later.

[Christophera]

And I'm sure, Chris, that you've heard that America was planned as the new Freemason capitol of the world. Take it or leave it, it's just an indicator that 1950 was no specific starting point.

There was something that happened in around 1950. Operation paperclip. That I believe was the beginning of the infiltration that lead to the cold war and many other things. If we knew enough about Russia, it would be logical we would find a similar immigration/infiltration. From the associated "mind control" of that infiltration we would see HOW the "mutually assured destruction" policy was justified. From that secrecy came the secrecy that concealed the "built to demolish" aspects of the towers, as well as many other things that lead to the decline of lawful, Consitutional government.

Then, 100 years earlier in 1850, there was another event which perhaps enabled that to a degree. The sons of Freemasons began NOT joining their fathers lodges. Since then the membership has been declining. However, the unconscious connections between the lodge and the descendant remained. Still affiliated and compliant but not restrained by the "Code of Masonic Conduct". This I've learned was by sabotage of their unconsciously carried oral histories which had been earlier altered towards more secrecy by the infiltration of the Templars. That mapping became the basis for the "Mission chains."

Following the 1305 ban by Phillip the Fair, King of France, the Templars mapped the worlds coastlines and returned to Scotland, "Latin term" for "Alba".

http://truthasaur.com/secret_history..._falconry.html

Secrecy complaint with romes mandates began the alteration of the Freemason society into what colonized this continent. Unconscious is better that secret.

[MrDark71]

I'm no mason...but I have made concrete. How (without a substructure i.e steel) do you pour 1000 vertical feet of concrete maintaining consistant stability and composition? ...or if it was done in pieces how were they adhered?....duct tape?

Please someone fill me in here because that seems a touch architecturally unsound for a skyscraper.

[Christophera]

I'm no mason...but I have made concrete. How (without a substructure i.e steel) do you pour 1000 vertical feet of concrete maintaining consistent stability and composition? ...or if it was done in pieces how were they adhered?....duct tape?

Please someone fill me in here because that seems a touch architecturally unsound for a skyscraper.

The concrete was poured in 40 lifts. That is basically the limit for concrete as the hydrostatic pressures become too great for wooden forms. The interior forms were steel, breakdown forms.

The steel exterior framework was only allowed to extend. normally, 80 feet over the top of the last concrete pour of the core. This was because the steel frameworks was laterally quite flimsy. The steel was designed to take weight and the concrete to absorb the lateral loads that the steel could not resist in the tall skinny proportions of the towers.

The inside face of the interior box columns, the inner wall of the outer tube of the "tube in a tube" construction, was used to support the outer wooden forms.

During construction the cranes could apply such large lateral loads that the framework could flex and fail so the concrete had to be within 80 feet of the top floor for the cranes to work at capacity. WTC 2 had a slightly differently designed core (shear wall cells) which allowed parts of it to be built ahead of the total which enabled the steel to go higher without a completed core.

The below image shows what can only be rebar. It is huge rebar. Custom ordered high tensile steel, 3 inches in diameter on 4 foot centers. We view the wall lines of it diagonally which probably makes the resolution of the rebar more possible at the distance.
Notice the slope of the top of the bar. The engineers required that the concrete be poured on a slope. The dryer mixed heavy aggregate concrete was mounded inside the concrete forms up towards a corner. Opposite corners were high points making a saw toothed joint between pours which minimized the adhesion problem and increased the resistance to torsion which was the major problem encountered with wind.

[Christophera]

Hmmmmm, my post is being truncated.

I have to post again to finish,


The small size of the above vertical elements is shown by the size of the interior box column in the image below. The below image was taken a second before the above. The rebar is in concrete shear walls (se bottom image) behind the framed walls formed by the interior box columns, outside the core area, which the spire is at a corner.



In the 1990 documentary I viewed called "The Construction of the Twin Towers" which was 2 hours in length, the first 20-30 minutes was about the design process.
Leslie Robertson had conceived of the towers but did not have the skill to adequately certify the towers safety. Minoru Yamasaki had the task of taking Robertsons initial steel core design and testing it. He found that calculations showed the tower was suceptable to defoemations that exceeded design limits and could cause failures. He built a scale model and the wind tunnel revealed that at 75MPH the tower showed signs of deformations that, if increased, would cause failures. This is the point where he moved to consider the concrete core.

One design that was submitted but abandoned was the post stressed concrete core which the BBC still presents as the core. We all know the elevators were inside the core and that core is solid.

the BBC core

The concrete core was tubular shear wall construction.

The below image shows the relationship between the concrete shear wall and the interior box columns at about 500 feet elevation. This is basically the same



The steel column is on the right flexing while the segment of concrete shear wall is on the left holding it up.

[royster]

It is interesting the the blue-prints for the WTC Towers are "missing".

[AuGmENTor]

That's bullshit. They should absolutely be available from somewhere, even if it were the origional designers. Some asian dood, no?

[royster]

Correct, and he died from cancer some years ago. He also realized that the galvanic corrosion theory was truth. Consider Thomas Andrews, as his Titanic was sinking.