Originally Posted by Partridge
you should try listening to alternative sources of information. if we are to believe that the world is controlled through dialectics, then the truth is usually something in the middle.
im not saying that the palestinians are neccessarily evil or even the israelis, but let's think about this for a moment purely in terms of practicality.
Legalities aside, Israel in relation to the Palestinians have a massive military and economical advantage, and yet, almost exactly like how the US deals with others in terms of diplomacy, fails spectacularily. Myron Fagan explains this rather well. The fact that they refuse to deploy the neccessary resources to effectively eliminate the terrorists says to me that the higher ups are interested in a protracted war, just like in Iraq. Because we know that war is the most effective tool in social engineering.
number two, we have to acknowledge the fact that refugees or people without a country, is a ongoing thing throughout human history. What makes the palestinians different? 1) for some reason, the surrounding arab countries absolutely REFUSE to let them in, and when they do, they are given refugee status where they live in tents and aren't even allowed to own property or have a job. Coupled with the fact that Palestinians recieve 30,000 bucks compensation if a family member becomes a suicide bomber. At this rate, don't you think that there are vested interests in using a radicalized population to be used as a proxy against Israel? This to me is analogous to how the CIA brings crack into black neighbourhoods, and how welfare is engineered to destroy black families. The result is a criminal underclass that neccesitates a police state.
Remember, that's the goal in everything.
i think this is debateable.Originally Posted by Partridge
my reason for posting the link was because i wanted to respond to someone who thinks Israel is 'running shit', because if they are fighting with a hand behind their back, they're obviously not. im just saying that there is a hidden hand, sorta like the American Neo-cons, operating in their own government then that doesn't make a player, but rather a pawn.Originally Posted by Partridge
well the point i was trying to make is that again, the Israeli government doesn't represent, and mostly likely wants to destroy the Jewish people. Kinda like how the US government refuses to close the border.Originally Posted by Partridge
i'm juxtaposing how it's possible to be concerned about offending muslims by having jews pray on the Temple Mount, and yet not applying the same standard to Jerusalem in term of the gay march. Im just saying that the religious foundation of Israel is either being subverted or never existed in the first place. this figures greatly into the idea that the country is Luciferian, whose MO is to counterfeit everything that is God's, and instead plan it for evil. Kinda like how the Pope has inverted crosses everywhere, or how famous churches and cathedrals have occultic architecture.Originally Posted by Partridge
again, i think you should give the link a chance. i've really learned a lot from it and it's cleared some of these things up for me.Originally Posted by Partridge
actually, if you browse your link you'll find this section:Originally Posted by Partridge
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ra...weissmandl.cfm
basically, it indicts the zionists for PROMPTING and ENGINEERING anti-semitism in Nazi Germany for the very reason to send them fleeing to Palestine. And let's not forget the Jewish Rothschild's who bankrolled the whole thing.
Henry Makow has written extensively on this
http://www.savethemales.ca/000482.html
and Myron Fagan says more or less the same thing.
Originally Posted by Partridge
you can't say that the Bible/Koran/Torah doesn't have influence on the Geo-political scene. If anything, many people argue that that is the overarching agenda. how else do you have a country like Israel, where it's exiles from 2000 years ago come back to form their country? or what about all the NWO stuff? Some people accuse Bush of wanting to bring the Armageddon. and let's not forget Amadijnajad's gambit about how he'd like to bring the 'mahdi'.
everywhere we look there are religions that tells us we are the precipice of something great. a new age, or NWO. we have to look carefully into these things.