Stephen Sackur talks to a leading neo-conservative, Norman Podhoretz.

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(Beltman713: This joker said that the number of our soldiers killed in Iraq was "Derisory" by historical standards and when asked about civilian casualties he said that they were better off than they were under Saddam because he killed more of them than we have.)

Podhoretz, provides insights into the racism, and fascists ideology that fuels Neo-Conservatives

George Bush's presidency has been defined by big ideas such as America's duty to fight a global pre-emptive battle against terrorism for democracy. These ideas come with a name: Neo-conservatism. Norman Podhoretz is one of America's most influential neo-conservatives.

But after the war in Iraq, are they in full retreat?