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    Eckolaker Guest

    Allan Weisbecker's Down South Perspective

    (Eckolaker- My boss forwarded this email to me. He is a old surfer from Hawaii and knew this guy back in the day. Over the years I have got my boss to come around on 9/11 but he is still one of those people who doesnt want it to be true and would just rather not hear about it. This is a great read and is extremely well informed.)

    Part 1

    From: "Allan Weisbecker" <acwdownsouth@yahoo.com>
    >Reply-To: "Allan Weisbecker" <acwdownsouth@yahoo.com>
    >To: "DownSouth Subscriber" <dwcinlaguna@hotmail.com>
    >Subject: Allan Weisbecker's Down South Perspective
    >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:38:42 -0700
    >
    >
    >Hi folks,
    >
    >People in the UK are starting to receive Can’t You Get Along With
    >Anyone? (CYGAWA); with U.S. (and other countries) buyers it will take a
    >bit longer, although some have already arrived at certain locales in the
    >States. Hang in.
    >
    >Knowing the book is actually getting read, I’m prompted to remind
    >you: The book is a jazzy ARC (advance reading copy), which means
    >it’s printed from uncorrected galley proofs, which means that there
    >are still some typos and other screw ups. Try not to let them distract
    >your read. (On the upside, the limited printing run of the pre-release
    >[ARC] edition is liable to make it a collector’s item, as is the
    >case with the ARC edition of Cosmic Banditos from back in 1985 [which also
    >had typos], which has sold for as much as $300.)
    >
    >Also: My new Appendix/adjunct to the book is still under construction. It
    >will be done in a week or so. A massive undertaking, the site extensively
    >backs up the veracity of the book. No James Frey shit here, folks.
    >
    >#
    >
    >Steve James, where are you?
    >
    >Steve (from Wales), who won my last Pavones (Costa Rica) surfboard in the
    >book drawing, has not yet responded to me to verify his shipping address.
    >
    >I will not ship the board without hearing from you, Steve. Please email me
    >or we’ll have to pick another winner. I’ll give you a couple
    >more weeks.
    >
    >Those of you who won the lettered hard cover “Uber” edition:
    >That edition has not yet gone to press. Hang in, be patient. You’ll
    >get it. I’ve sent out the poster to the guy who won it (Adam from
    >New York); manuscript is on its way also (to Nicole in Germany).
    >
    >#
    >
    >My last message’s link to a physicist talking about some of the
    >problems in the “official version” of the World Trade Center
    >collapse on 9/11 created a shit storm, as I pretty much figured it would.
    >Emails were divided between saying “I already knew that” or
    >“What are you, another nutcase conspiracy theorist?” The
    >latter – my status as a nutcase – was predominant by about 70
    >– 30.
    >
    >Queries about my sanity were invariably hostile, like this one:
    >“Fuck you and your book…. Your a jerk off.”
    >
    >I may be a jerk off but this guy couldn’t even write a grammatically
    >correct sentence telling me I’m a jerk off.
    >
    >“You’re a jerk off” is of course the correct way of
    >pointing out that someone, me, say, is a jerk off. I’m tempted to
    >point out that labeling someone a jerk off (in a four word sentence) but
    >in so doing making an obvious grammatical error (in the first word of the
    >sentence) tends to put the labeler himself in the category of jerk offs,
    >but I won’t. Too easy.
    >
    >“Jerk off” as used by this fellow is a pretty funny term, if
    >you think about it. I mean how did a verb referring to self-gratification
    >become a noun referring to someone of low intelligence? (Which begs a
    >question: Has the guy who labeled me a jerk off ever indulged in
    >self-gratification, i.e., jerked off? If so, what are the implications?
    >How about if he habitually jerks off, like every day, multiple times per
    >day?)
    >
    >Another way of describing a person who is a jerk off would be to point out
    >that he has his “head up his ass.”
    >
    >You ever see that poster depicting someone with his head up his ass,
    >literally? The caption is “Your problem is obvious.”
    >
    >Notice that in this case, “your” – rather than
    >“you’re” – is correct.
    >
    >I’ve noticed that jerk offs with their heads up their asses
    >habitually confuse “you’re” and “your”.
    >I’m not kidding. Hostile responses to this newsletter wherein
    >someone calls me something, and in so doing should say “You’re
    >a (fill in the blank)”, always uses the incorrect
    >“Your.” Someone should do a study on this, find out
    >what’s going on.
    >
    >I’m wondering if daily self-gratification is a factor.
    >
    >#
    >
    >“The belief in untruths is the primary reason why the world is so
    >fucked up.”
    >
    >I say this in my last message, the one that resulted in my being labeled a
    >jerk off, in a grammatically incorrect four-word sentence.
    >
    >I’ll add this to that, by way of explanation: “Notwithstanding
    >evidence to the contrary, people believe whatever makes them feel most
    >comfortable about themselves and their world.”
    >
    >I’ll give you just a couple or so examples of this.
    >
    >(Hold on. I’ve gotten emails from outraged folks who say they just
    >flat don’t want to hear this sort of bullshit from me. They want to
    >hear cool stuff about surfing. Okay. These folks should just stop reading
    >here and delete this email. Or skip down to the bottom, to the last word,
    >which is cool and about surfing.)
    >
    >Okay, now that we’ve gotten rid of them:
    >
    >In 2001, soon after 9/11, the Pentagon released a video tape of Osama bin
    >Laden bragging that he was behind the 9/11 attacks. CNN and the Bush
    >Administration called the tape “The Smoking Gun Tape,” meaning
    >it proved bin Laden was the monster behind the attacks.
    >
    >I remember seeing the footage on CNN and immediately saying to myself,
    >“That’s not Osama bin Laden.” I mean the guy did not
    >remotely look like Osama bin Laben – although he was wearing a
    >turban. (Meanwhile, “another” bin Laden released an audio tape
    >saying he was not involved in the attacks.)
    >
    >I was recently reminded of this while viewing a film on the Internet. The
    >film is quite long, unedited, and the physicist who is featured
    >isn’t the best public speaker. But the film is nevertheless
    >enlightening, especially about the WTC collapse.
    >
    >For those who care about the state of the world – why it’s so
    >fucked up and so forth -- I do recommend a complete viewing, but if you
    >just want to see evidence that we were even lied to about who was behind
    >the attacks, go to the following page and move the thingee at the bottom
    >that marks the film’s progress to 1:08:50 minutes. See if you think
    >that guy is bin Laden:
    >
    >http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...34652002408586
    >
    >Back? There’s a joke about a guy getting caught by his wife while
    >fucking another woman. As the other woman runs out of the room and the guy
    >denies he was cheating, he says, “Who are you going to believe, me
    >or your lying eyes?”
    >
    >So, regarding the “bin Laden” in the tape and what the
    >Pentagon told you:
    >
    >“Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?” (But
    >hey: He’s wearing a turban! Must be bin Laden!)
    >
    >Remember the fable called “The Emperor’s New Clothes”?
    >This classic in understatement about human beings applies to just about
    >everything we’ve been told about 9/11, but a good example is implied
    >by another site you can visit. Call this one “The Emperor’s
    >New 757.”
    >
    >http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero...erreurs_en.htm
    >
    >Back? The “official” explanation (or, rather, one of them) for
    >the lack of wreckage, was this: “The 757 was vaporized by the
    >fire.” Not destroyed or melted, but vaporized. (They simultaneously
    >claimed that the passengers were identified by finger prints.) When a 9th
    >grader who had just taken General Science 101 (and gotten a C-) pointed
    >out that this is impossible by the laws of physics (melting points of
    >steel and aluminum, etc.), they then changed the story, saying that the
    >FBI had the wreckage reassembled in a hangar somewhere, although they
    >didn’t say where.
    >
    >Okay. But aside from their contradicting their previous vaporization
    >claim, we’re back to the photos: Where is the 757 the FBI now has
    >reassembled?
    >
    >“Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?”
    >
    >And then of course we have the collapse of the WTC, along with Building 7.
    >The “official explanation.”
    >
    >Several irate subscribers pointed out that Popular Mechanics magazine has
    >come up with a book “debunking” all the “conspiracy
    >theories” relating to 9/11, including the WTC collapse. At Popular
    >Mechanics’ online site there’s a pitch for the book, with
    >excerpts. Presumably, some of their best “debunking” is
    >included; when you excerpt a book you give your best shot, no?
    >
    >Here’s an excerpt from the piece:
    >
    >
    >"The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the
    >utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning
    >jet fuel--and fiery destruction throughout the building."
    >
    >
    >
    > The above is a lie, a lie by the NIST (National Institute of Standards
    >and Technology), and a lie by Popular Mechanics. I hope you noticed the
    >lie, since it does not require outside fact checking to do so. If you did
    >not notice the lie, you’re not paying sufficient attention to what
    >you read.
    >
    >
    >
    >Let’s assume you did not recognize the above as a lie: Now that you
    >know it’s a lie, do you see why? Take a minute, if necessary…
    >
    >How could the investigation "reveal" this stuff when the building was
    >completely destroyed and the evidence carted away immediately, preventing
    >any sort of forensic analysis? All they had to “investigate”
    >was the video footage we all have seen. Were you able to see into the
    >building, into the utility shafts as the plane sliced through them?
    >
    >“Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?”
    >
    >(What Popular Mechanics of course did was to come to their debunking
    >conclusions before any “investigation,” then they made up
    >whatever sounded good to prove the conclusion they had already come to. I
    >consider this lying.)
    >
    >By the way: What happened to the South Tower? Same thing? And WTC 7, which
    >was not hit by any aircraft? (What about “pancaking”? No
    >building has ever pancaked at freefall speed, and never will, because that
    >would violate the law of the conservation of momentum. Period.)
    >
    >Another by-the-way (there are dozens): Popular Mechanics admits that the
    >jet fuel (which is kerosene) would have burned off very quickly and it was
    >therefore office contents that melted the buildings’ steel core
    >(paper, carpets, computers, etc). To which I say: I used to have an old
    >cast iron wood burning stove that heated my house. How come it never
    >melted when I burned stuff in it? No outside fact checking needed on this
    >one either.
    >
    >Some of the lies in the Popular Mechanics piece do take outside fact
    >checking. One example: They claim:
    >
    >
    >In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane
    >over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. With
    >passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost
    >radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even
    >so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet.
    >
    >
    >Let’s take that last sentence first: “Even so, it took an F-16
    >1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet.”
    >
    >Through some simple Googling I brought up the NTSB Report on the incident.
    >Here’s an excerpt (it’s at
    >http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/2000/AAB0001.htm):

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    Eckolaker Guest
    Part 2

    At 0933:38 EDT (6 minutes and 20 seconds after N47BA acknowledged the
    >previous clearance), the controller instructed N47BA to change radio
    >frequencies and contact another Jacksonville ARTCC controller. The
    >controller received no response from N47BA. The controller called the
    >flight five more times over the next 4 1/2 minutes but received no
    >response.
    >
    >About 0952 CDT,7 a USAF F-16 test pilot from the 40th Flight Test
    >Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base (AFB), Florida, was vectored to within 8
    >nm of N47BA.8 About 0954 CDT, at a range of 2,000 feet from the accident
    >airplane and an altitude of about 46,400 feet,9 the test pilot made
    >two radio calls to N47BA but did not receive a response.
    >
    >
    >The F-16 intercepted Stewart’s plane 21 minutes after the controller
    >lost radio contact with it, not “1 hour and 22 minutes.” (And
    >fifteen minutes after the controller decided something was wrong and made
    >a call.) And remember: This was a small, private aircraft that had simply
    >wandered off course and failed to report in, not a commercial airliner
    >that had obviously been hijacked.
    >
    >But my point: Popular Mechanics is lying. Just flat out lying about how
    >long it took to intercept the Learjet. (Or did their “scores of
    >researchers” fail to do the little bit of Googling I did?)
    >
    >So there it is, read the NTSB Report with your own eyes. On the other
    >hand:
    >
    >“Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?”
    >
    >Let’s look at the first sentence from the Popular Mechanics excerpt
    >from their definitive book “debunking” the “conspiracy
    >theories”:
    >
    >
    >In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane
    >over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999.
    >
    >
    >Another blatant lie. There were 67 intercepts just in 1999, let alone the
    >decade. I saw the report on this about a year ago, I think it was from the
    >NTSB (National Transportation and Safety Board) as well. Could have been a
    >NORAD document. I forget.
    >
    >This Popular mechanics lie is supposed to explain why no military jets
    >were scrambled for an hour and a half while the sky was full of hijacked
    >airliners bent on catastrophic destruction. They are trying to rewrite
    >history about “standard operating procedure” (SOP).
    >
    >I’d like to show you this document too – so you don’t
    >have to take my word that I did see it -- but I’m busy and
    >don’t have the time right now to do the Googling. (If there are any
    >expert Googlers out there who want to help refresh my memory of where I
    >saw this document, please do. You might have to use Nexus –Lexus [or
    >whatever], which I don’t have.)
    >
    >We don’t really need to see the document, though, since a reading of
    >the above NTSB Report about the Learjet shows how routine it is to call
    >the military for an intercept – again, of a private aircraft merely
    >off course and out of contact. Reading the above, do you believe that this
    >incident with a golfer’s Learjet was the only such incident in a
    >decade? Really. Please think about it.
    >
    >What does this tell you about SOP?
    >
    >As I say, I saw the document: 67 times just in that year, let alone the
    >decade. I saw it with my eyes, although they of course could have been
    >lying.
    >
    >And remember: Fifteen minutes after the controller decided something was
    >wrong, an F-16 intercepted Stewart’s Lear. How could that happen if
    >they had to go up the chain of command to the White House before a jet was
    >scrambled, which is what they are saying in their (latest) history
    >rewrite? (It would seem that we have a serious “believing your lying
    >eyes”/Emperor’s New Clothes Problem here too, no?)
    >
    >Popular Mechanics is lying, as are all the shitball motherfuckers who are
    >rewriting history so you believe the lies you’ve been told, about
    >jets scrambling and all the rest of it.
    >
    >If for some reason you have a need to have your intelligence further
    >insulted, here’s the link to Popular Mechanics’ utter
    >horseshit:
    >
    >http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...tml?page=1&c=y
    >
    >
    >(You go there you’ll notice they start off by
    >“debunking” the wildest of the “conspiracy
    >theories,” theories that are in fact bullshit. This is to work up
    >contempt for all “conspiracy theories,” so when you get to
    >their transparent lies (like the steel cores melting because of burning
    >paper) you’ll believe them. This is perception management 101.
    >
    >
    >
    > But why are all these people lying, including the experts from a
    >“prestigious” national magazine? The long answer is in Noam
    >Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent.
    >
    >The short answer: Do you think the kid from “The Emperor’s New
    >Clothes” rose very high in the Emperor’s cabinet?
    >
    >So far:
    >
    >The Pentagon falsified a tape of “Osama bin Laden” bragging
    >about being behind 9/11. (Or claimed as genuine a tape they knew to be
    >bogus.)
    >
    >The NIST (plus Popular Mechanics) is lying about why the WTC came down.
    >
    >Someone, everyone (plus Popular Mechanics) is lying about military jets
    >intercepting aircraft and standard operating procedure.
    >
    >Notice I’m not saying what did happen. I’m only pointing out
    >lies. That’s all. So don’t email me with questions that you
    >figure prove that the lies are other than lies. That’s dumb ass.
    >
    >To put it a different way:
    >
    >
    >How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the
    >impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?
    >
    > --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
    >
    >
    >The expression No shit, Sherlock comes to mind.
    >
    >I could go on about, say, the Popular Mechanics piece, show how every bit
    >of it is either a lie or perception management, but…
    >
    >But you know what? I just had a major rush of insight, an epiphany. The
    >people who pointed out that I’m a nutcase are right. I am a nutcase.
    >
    >
    >Speaking of paying attention: Do you see how proof that I’m a
    >nutcase is contained within this message? In other words, we need not
    >outside fact check to prove I’m a nutcase. I’ve proved it
    >myself.
    >
    >How do I start all this off? With this theory:
    >
    >“Notwithstanding evidence to the contrary, people believe whatever
    >makes them feel most comfortable about themselves and their world.”
    >
    >If my theory is correct, no matter how much proof I provide, you’ll
    >go on believing whatever makes you feel most comfortable about yourself
    >and your world.
    >
    >So if the premise of this message is correct, the message itself is
    >absolutely useless, i.e., I’ve been completely wasting my time (a
    >full day).
    >
    >Only a nutcase wastes a full day of his time when he knows, or should
    >know, he’s wasting his time. (Regarding those of you who already
    >know about the lies – good for you! -- I’m “preaching to
    >the choir,” which is also a waste of time.)
    >
    >Hold on. Maybe I’ve been indulging in self-gratification with this
    >message… Which would mean that the guy who labeled me a jerk off is
    >correct, after all.
    >
    >We’re back to that one.
    >
    >I’ll be in touch (nutcase that I am).
    >
    >Allan
    >
    >My last word to folks who just want to hear cool stuff about surfing:
    >Cowabunga!


    End Part 2

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