Quote Originally Posted by americansovereign
Thanks for your comment, I agree with you in SELF-DEFENSE ONLY against those that trespass against our life, liberty, and property. Against the conspirators the only proper action is a jury trial in common law court of our peers by the injured property. Some actions that many in this movement are trying to take like impeachment or class action suits are fruitless and virtually meaningless. We can have only partial success in their courts; ultimate success when the people have awakened, and our OJ government is restored.

AuGmENTor said, "If your lawful war doesn't cut it, and they continue to terrorize us, will you fight? or will it be a case of if you can't beat them, join them?"

The people have forgotten their creator endowed constitutionally mandated right including the right to fight and protect against trespass against those that attack them with fraud, theat or violent force. Yes, of course I will fight against them to protect my family and life.

I have been reserved on the use of violence because it is immoral (not to mention a violation of international law to use) without just cause. There is distinct chance that some in this movement MIGHT ACT on HEARSAY and use violence without valid cause in violation of the law permitting retribution by U.S. Corp who will claim they did nothing wrong. Compounding the problem, more people will openly and violently rebel against U.S. escalating the hostilities to the next level of mass genocide. The violence, blood, destruction and deaths might exceed those that happened in Germany, Poland and the Soviet Union. NWO could use this as a pretext to say they LAWFULLY CONQUERED the United States of America. Then Homeland Security (The Nazi S.S.) in our cities could be used to lock them down. U.S. Corp does not expect us to act rationally and honorably, if we don't we will lose by default.

There is distinct difference between the American Revolution and a new revolution; unlike a fight against the British, we have a choice and remedy buried in our Constitutions.

We must reelect our entire original jursidiction government...

This process has already been progress for awhile and at least 39 OJ governors and at least one OJ Senator have been elected. Thank you, Eric W. Madsen, and www.teamlaw.org. (I am not Teamlaw or premoting them in way, just giving due recognization of their acheivements.) Once we have the right people in place, we can finally elect a President of United States of America (President Bush is just President of the Corporation and commander and chief of our armed forces under martial law) who can lawfully demand U.S. Corp to honor its legal obligations to the people. Then action can be brought in our common law courts against criminals in U.S. Corp by trial by jury. That is a summary of a more proper course. Don't write this off as impossible unless you see a concerted effort by the people.

AuGmENTor said, "Now it's just a wait to see if it can be won by the means you describe, or if it's gone too far for that."

This attitude is why the situation has gotten out of hand in the first place. If you can read, think, act, and desire your freedom, you are capable of understanding history and the law.
Law in most part is simple:
1. Your rights are creator endowed, equal, and unalienable.
2. Do not trespass against the life, liberty, or property of any sovereign human being. When someone trespasses against another they are liable to the injured for civil and criminal saction under law under a trial by jury in common law.
3. Honor all private contracts made with full awareness of facts; do not default on your duties that you freely made. If a contact is made against you under threat, fraud or force denounce it as soon as you aware of the facts and free of duress to protect your rights.
Good post(s) man. Seeing people who understand this (better than I do, to be honest) does my heart good.