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    James Redford Guest

    Analysis of the Accused Hijackers Training on U.S. Military Bases

    In original reports (i.e., not simply going off the reports of other news agencies) by Newsweek, the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Gannett News Service, the below accused 9/11 hijackers have been named as having trained at U.S. military bases:

    Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93)
    Ahmed Alnami (United Airlines 93)
    Ahmed Alghamdi (United Airlines 175)
    Hamza Alghamdi (United Airlines 175)
    Mohamed Atta (American Airlines 11)
    Abdulaziz Alomari (American Airlines 11)

    - The Pensacola Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking U.S. Navy source said that Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmad Alnami (both United Airlines 93) and Ahmed Alghamdi (United Airlines 175) listed their legal residences at 10 Radford Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located. Saeed Alghamdi listed the address on two different car registrations. Ahmad Alnami and Ahmed Alghamdi listed the address on their driver licenses. The Washington Post reported that Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi attended. The Washington Post reported that Ahmed Alnami and Hamza Alghamdi (United Airlines 175) listed their legal residence at the same address.

    - Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking Pentagon official said one of the named hijackers attended. The Washington Post reported that Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93) graduated from the Defense Language Institute English Language Center at the base. The Los Angeles Times reported that a defense official said two of the hijackers were former Saudi fighter pilots who had attended.

    - Maxwell-Gunter Air Force Base in Montgomery, Alabama: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking Pentagon official said one of the named hijackers attended the Air War College. The Washington Post reported that Mohamed Atta (American Airlines 11) graduated from the International Officers School. Gannett News Service reported that Air Force spokesman Col. Ken McClellan said that Mohammed Atta attended the International Officer's School. The Los Angeles Times reported that a defense official said two of the hijackers were former Saudi fighter pilots who had attended the Air War College.

    - The Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center at the Presidio of Monterey in Monterey, California: Gannett News Service reported that Saeed Alghamdi (United Airlines 93) attended.

    - USAF School of Aerospace Medicine at Brooks Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas: The Washington Post reported that Abdulaziz Alomari (American Airlines 11) graduated from the school. Gannett News Service reported that Abdulaziz Alomari attended.


    U.S. government officals later claimed that these individuals who trained on these U.S. military bases were different people from the hijackers with the same names (even though high-level anonymous U.S. military sources told these various news agencies with certainty that these were the same individuals as the named hijackers). It was also vaguely stated that some of the biographical details didn't match exactly, although the U.S. government has never specified the differences or offered any evidence of these claims. Notably, none of these named U.S. military trainees has ever come forward to clear up the association of their names with those of the purported hijackers, and the U.S. government refuses to release any information about these supposedly differrent individuals.

    It's as if none of these supposedly different individuals with the same names even exist. That doesn't make any sense, unless they are not different individuals from the named hijackers, in which case even if they were still alive they wouldn't likely be eager to come forward, nor would the U.S. government be eager to present details as to where they can be found.

    See:

    "Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases: The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI," George Wehrfritz, Catharine Skipp and John Barry, Newsweek, September 15, 2001:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200109170...ews/629529.asp

    http://prisonplanet.com/alleged_hija..._us_bases.html

    "Suspected Hijackers: 19 Quiet Lives That Shattered the World; Inquiry: 'Nice,' 'normal' guys had few belongings but access to lots of cash. Tantalizing clues show path to destruction.," H.G. Reza, Evan Halper and Lisa Getter, Los Angeles Times, September 15, 2001:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200308121...,3617363.story

    "Shared Names for Hijackers," New York Times, September 15, 2001:

    http://billstclair.com/911timeline/2001/nyt091501e.html

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/010915nytimes

    "2nd Witness Arrested; 25 Held for Questioning," Guy Gugliotta and David S. Fallis, Washington Post, September 16, 2001; Page A29:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...8270-2001Sep15

    "Reconstructing the hijackers' last days: Unusual leads surface; links to bin Laden found," Guy Gugliotta, Washington Post, September 16, 2001:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200110241...tructingt.html

    "Ashcroft asks Congress for expanded police powers as manhunt continues," Ana Radelat, Gannett News Service, September 17, 2001:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200502051...mcclellan.html

    "Pensacola NAS link faces more scrutiny: Senator seeks answers on hijackers ties to Navy base," Larry Wheeler, Scott Streater and Ginny Graybiel, Pensacola News Journal, September 17, 2001:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200109231...al/ST001.shtml

    "Doubt about the identities of the hijackers grows," Ana Radelat and Mike Madden, Gannett News Service, September 20, 2001:

    http://greenvilleonline.com/news/200...1092012469.htm

    "Pentagon Lied: Terrorists Trained at U.S. Bases," Daniel Hopsicker, MadCowMorningNews, Issue No. 6, October 14, 2001:

    http://www.madcowprod.com/issue06.html

    http://web.archive.org/web/200111241...om/index6.html

    Chapter 11, "'Saudi Prince' Mohamed Atta?," in Welcome to Terrorland: Mohamed Atta & the 9-11 Cover-Up in Florida by Daniel Hopsicker (Walterville, Oregon: TrineDay, 2004):

    http://www.american-buddha.com/911.w...orlandhop6.htm

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    Statistical Calculation on the Odds of Arab U.S. Military Trainees Matching the Same Names as the Purported Hijackers, But Without Actually Being the Same People

    All of the hijackers matching the names as being U.S. military trainees except for Mohamed Atta were supposedly born in Saudi Arabia (i.e., Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, and Abdulaziz Alomari), with Atta supposedly being born in Egypt. Below is a guide on Arab naming conventions, with particular focus on common Saudi Arabian naming conventions.

    "Arab Names," Saudi Public Relations Company (SPRC), ArabNet:

    http://www.arab.net/arabnames/index.html

    Below is a list of the 100 most common Arab family or tribal names, with population statistics given for them. I'm not sure how accurate the below statistics are, nor does it cite its source for the statistics, but it was the only resource of its kind that I could find online. But even if the list is way off, the analysis that follows will show that the odds of the six named U.S. military trainees being different people from the named hijackers must of necessity be truly staggering. Hence, I use the below list to simply have some starting point to conduct the analysis.

    "Arabic Names in the Arab States: The 100 most common Arabic Last Names, including their rank and population (within the Arab States)," Tetradom Limited trading as Pdom.com:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200304130...abic_names.htm

    The names Ghamdi, Nami, and Atta all show up on the above list as each being under (or possibly at) 570,000 total Arabs in the world for any one of these surnames (i.e., family names, or tribal names).

    The name Omar shows up on the list three times, each time under a different English transliteration, with each entry listed as 620,000 total Arabs in the world with that family name. So to be on the safe side I'll take all of these entries and add them together, for a total of 1,860,000 Arabs in the world with a surname of Omar.

    The total population of Arabs in the world is somewhere between 250-300 million people. So to be generous, I'll take that there are 300,000,000 total Arabs in the world. The Arab American Institute estimates that there is possibly a bit over 3.5 million Arabs in the U.S., with more than than 80% being U.S. citizens.

    As I don't know what the actual figure is concerning how many Arabs have been trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, for my calculations I'll use the figure that 1 in every 1,000 of the total world's Arab population have trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil. This seems exceedingly generous.

    We are now in a position to calculate the odds of six Arabs matching the family or tribal names of Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, Mohamed Atta, and Abdulaziz Alomari trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, but without actually being the same people as these six named hijackers.

    570000 (number of Arabs in the world with a surname of Ghamdi, Nami, or Atta) / 300000000 (total number of Arabs in the world) = 0.0019 (0.19% of the population of Arabs in the world with a surname of Ghamdi, Nami, or Atta)

    1860000 (number of Arabs in the world with the surname of Omar) / 300000000 (total number of Arabs in the world) = 0.0062 (0.62% of the population of Arabs in the world with the surname of Omar)

    300000 (total number of Arabs trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil) * 0.0019^5 (0.19% of the population of Arabs in the world with a surname of Ghamdi, Nami, or Atta, raised by the power of five, for the five individuals with one of these names) * 0.0062 (0.62% of the population of Arabs in the world with a surname of Omar) = 4.60554414 E-11

    1 / 4.60554414 E-11 = ~21712960935.8168

    Hence, we come to a 1 in 21.7 billion (i.e., U.S. billion) odds that there could be six Arabs matching the surnames of Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, Mohamed Atta, and Abdulaziz Alomari trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, but without actually being the same people as these six named hijackers.

    Keep in mind that this analysis only concerns surnames (i.e., Arab family or tribal names). If one were to do an analysis which included the given names (i.e., first names, the Arab *ism*) along with the surnames, then the odds against six Arabs matching the names of Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, Mohamed Atta, and Abdulaziz Alomari trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, but without actually being the same people as these six named hijackers, would be many orders of magnitude more improbable. In other words, the actual odds of such an event occuring are many orders of magnitude more improbable than my above calculation.

    Also, even if a number of the figures concerning name-populations and/or Arabs trained on U.S. military bases are off by a wide margin, we can still see by this analysis how truly large the odds against these six U.S. military trainees being different people from the named hijackers must be.

    Furthermore, bear in mind that there are many different ways to transliterate Arab names into English. Thus, in English, the exact same Arab name could be spelled a number of different ways; but in each case, these various English spellings would be referring to the exact same name in Arabic.

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    PhilosophyGenius Guest
    Nice post.

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