I know.... If you had a video tape of the conversation you could freeze the exact frame where their eyes glaze over and any hope for independent thought is gone. Hence the term "sheeple". They are not neccassarily bad people, but just people so brainwashed by a life of MTV and CNN telling them whats REAL, that they can no longer think ouside the box. I talk to ALOT of people about this, and MAYBE 1 in 4 do anything other than shutdown and let my words roll over them until it's time to say, "nope, couldn't be." They are the "anti-logic" crowd. All too comon in todays world.