Page 1 of 17 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 161

Thread: The Warnings

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    30,749

    The Warnings

    I'm creating this thread to show people what kind of warnings our Government got prior to 9/11... Here is a good one to start. Feel free to add to it.

    In late July 2001, Egyptian intelligence received a report from an undercover agent in Afghanistan that "20 al-Qaeda members had slipped into the US and four of them had received flight training on Cessnas." To the Egyptians, pilots of small planes didn't sound terribly alarming, but they passed on the message to the CIA anyway, fully expecting Washington to request information. "The request never came." [CBS, 10/9/02] Given that there were 19 hijackers and four pilots (who trained on Cessnas) in the 9/11 plot, one might think this would now be a big news item. But in fact, the information has only appeared as an aside in a CBS "60 Minutes" show about a different topic.
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG


  2. #2
    Se7en Guest
    There are numerous reports the US gets everyday. Possible hijackings, assassinations, and other 'terrorist' activity. This one happen to be true. We can't place the Gov't agencies (which are overworked anyways) to that high of a standard. IF there is a chance they can prevent it, then they should.

    It's a hard topic to dicuss.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    30,749
    Quote Originally Posted by Se7en
    There are numerous reports the US gets everyday. Possible hijackings, assassinations, and other 'terrorist' activity. This one happen to be true. We can't place the Gov't agencies (which are overworked anyways) to that high of a standard. IF there is a chance they can prevent it, then they should.

    It's a hard topic to dicuss.
    On top of all of these warnings... President Bush received the August 6th, PDB which stated the following...

    "We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ------------- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Shayk" 'Umar' Abd al-Rahman and other US-held extremists.

    Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

    The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full field investigations throughout the US that it considers Bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our Embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group of Bin Laden supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives."


    You said, "We can't place the Gov't agencies (which are overworked anyways) to that high of a standard."

    Remember... they did NADA.

    We must have set the bar pretty low... (just like the good ole days)
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG


  4. #4
    Se7en Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Gold9472
    On top of all of these warnings... President Bush received the August 6th, PDB which stated the following...

    "We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ------------- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Shayk" 'Umar' Abd al-Rahman and other US-held extremists.

    Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

    The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full field investigations throughout the US that it considers Bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our Embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group of Bin Laden supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives."


    You said, "We can't place the Gov't agencies (which are overworked anyways) to that high of a standard."

    Remember... they did NADA.

    We must have set the bar pretty low... (just like the good ole days)
    I agree. They did nothing. But hindsight is 20/20. How many things have you wished you could go back and do differently? "If I could have just did...."

    You are right about them not doing anything; and to that extent they need to be held responsible.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    30,749
    Quote Originally Posted by Se7en
    I agree. They did nothing. But hindsight is 20/20. How many things have you wished you could go back and do differently? "If I could have just did...."

    You are right about them not doing anything; and to that extent they need to be held responsible.
    Remember the '93 bombing? That took place at the World Trade Center... 8 years before 9/11...

    They had plenty of hindsight.

    They knew that the WTC was a target... And did NOTHING
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG


  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    30,749
    In 1999, British intelligence gave a secret report to the US embassy.^The report stated that al-Qaeda had plans to use "commercial aircraft" in "unconventional ways", "possibly as flying bombs."^[Sunday Times, 6/9/02] On July 16, 2001, British intelligence passed a message to the US that al-Qaeda was in "the final stages" of preparing a terrorist attack in Western countries. [London Times, 6/14/02] In early August, the British gave another warning, telling the US to expect multiple airline hijackings from al-Qaeda. This warning was included in Bush's briefing on August 6, 2001. [Sunday Herald, 5/19/02]
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG


  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    30,749
    In late July 2001, Afghanistan's Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil learned that Osama bin Laden was planning a "huge attack" on targets inside America. The attack was imminent, and would kill thousands, he learned from the leader of the rebel Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, which was closely allied with al-Qaeda at the time. Muttawakil sent an emissary to pass this information on to the US Consul General, and another US official, "possibly from the intelligence services." Sources confirmed that this message was received, but supposedly not taken very seriously, because of "warning fatigue" arising from too many terror warnings. [Independent, 9/7/02, Reuters, 9/7/02]
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG


  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    30,749
    An undercover agent from Morocco successfully penetrated al-Qaeda. He learned that bin Laden was "very disappointed" that the 1993 bombing had not toppled the World Trade Center, and was planning "large scale operations in New York in the summer or fall of 2001." He provided this information to the US in August 2001.^[Agence France Presse, 11/22/01, International Herald Tribune, 5/21/02, London Times, 6/12/02]
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG


  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    30,749
    In June 2001, German intelligence warned the US, Britain, and Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft and use them as weapons to attack "American and Israeli symbols which stand out." Within the American intelligence community, "the warnings were taken seriously and surveillance intensified" but "there was disagreement on how such terrorist attacks could be prevented." This warning came from Echelon, a spy satellite network that is partly based in Germany. [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, 9/11/01, Washington Post, 9/14/01]
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG


  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    30,749
    In late summer 2001, Jordan intelligence intercepted a message stating that a major attack was being planned inside the US and that aircraft would be used. The code name of the operation was Big Wedding, which did in fact turn out to be the codename of the 9/11 plot. The message was passed to US intelligence through several channels. ^[International Herald Tribune, 5/21/02, Christian Science Monitor, 5/23/02]
    No One Knows Everything. Only Together May We Find The Truth JG


Similar Threads

  1. Before 9/11, Warnings On Bin Laden
    By Gold9472 in forum 9/11 Justice Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-05-2008, 09:55 PM
  2. We Don't Need Any More Warnings
    By Gold9472 in forum 9/11 Justice Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-17-2007, 10:23 AM
  3. Report: FAA Had Many Pre-9/11 Warnings
    By Gold9472 in forum 9/11 Justice Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-12-2007, 07:49 PM
  4. Before 9/11, Warnings On Bin Laden
    By Gold9472 in forum The New News
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-10-2005, 11:30 AM
  5. The U.S. Ignored Foreign Warnings, Too
    By Gold9472 in forum 9/11 Justice Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-11-2005, 03:49 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •