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    Analysis: Bush lands in same hole as dad

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060528/...MzBHNlYwM3MDM-

    Analysis: Bush lands in same hole as dad



    By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON - Through his presidency, George W. Bush has worked hard to avoid repeating the mistakes of his father. He has done almost everything differently, yet now finds himself in the same hole despite trumping his dad by winning a second term.

    He is roughly at the same place in the polls where the elder Bush was at the low point of his presidency, with only about three of every 10 Americans registering approval. Like his father before him, this president faces a rebellion among conservatives, an uncertain economic outlook and the prospect of Republican losses in November.

    The first President Bush liked to quote Yogi Berra, his favorite pop philosopher, and his curious take on a baseball loss: "We made too many wrong mistakes."

    What were the biggest mistakes of George W. Bush's presidency? When asked that at an April 2004 news conference, he said he could not think of any. A far more subdued Bush now acknowledges some major ones — and not the ones his father made.

    They include "kind of tough talk, you know, that sent the wrong signal to people," Bush said at a Thursday news conference with British Prime Minister
    Tony Blair. He said the inhumane treatment of Iraqi prisoners at Baghdad's
    Abu Ghraib prison was one of the darkest marks on his watch.

    "Now I think he wishes he had not taken a blanket view that everything his father did was wrong," said Bruce Buchanan, a University of Texas professor who has closely studied the Bush family. "Staying out of Baghdad looks like a brilliant move at this point." During the Persian
    Gulf War in 1991, the first President Bush did not send U.S. troops into Baghdad to oust President
    Saddam Hussein after the U.S.-led coalition ousted the Iraqi arm from Kuwait.

    The current president says the 2003 invasion that drove Saddam from power was right.

    A recent AP-Ipsos poll put Bush's approval rating at 33 percent Other polls have put him even lower. Bush the elder sunk to 29 percent in a Gallup poll in early August 1992 soon after Democrats nominated
    Bill Clinton.

    The differences are most pronounced on
    Iraq. They also extend to the Bushes' attitudes on international institutions, government spending and taxes and fealty to conservatives.

    "If you didn't know them, if you came from Mars and became a student of both presidencies, you wouldn't know they were father and son," said Republican strategist Ed Rogers, an official in the first Bush White House.

    Still, Rogers said, the president "is definitely moving toward his father in terms of having a better sense of history and a better understanding of the U.S. and its place in the world." His acknowledgment of errors in Iraq "was a long way from the president who couldn't think of a single mistake," Rogers said.

    As to Mars, that is one on which they agree. Both Bushes proposed an eventual manned mission. They have taken different approaches in other areas:

    _Iraq: The elder Bush assembled a broad coalition and drove Hussein's invaders out of Kuwait but did not move into Baghdad. "We crushed their 43 divisions, but we stopped — we didn't just want to kill, and history will look on that kindly," he said in a memoir written with Brent Scowcroft, his national security adviser.

    The younger Bush ignored those words — and Scowcroft's public admonishments — and invaded Baghdad in March 2003 without broad international support.

    Baghdad fell and Saddam was later captured but the war continues. At least 2,460 U.S. troops have died. Iraq is a main reason for Bush's low approval ratings and it weighs heavily on all Republicans on midterm-election ballots.

    _Taxes and spending: The elder Bush pledged, "Read my lips: no new taxes," then agreed to a bipartisan tax increase. It helped shrink the deficit but cost him credibility.

    The younger Bush stood firm against tax increases and paid close heed to the economy. He delivered on a series of large tax cuts.

    But the U.S. balance sheets tipped from big surplus to big deficit because of those cuts, recession, the terrorist attacks, wars in
    Afghanistan and Iraq and increased homeland-security spending.

    _Conservatives: They were suspicious of the elder Bush's New England roots and generally moderate views, and never warmed up to him. He alienated them further by breaking his anti-tax pledges and not embracing their agenda.

    The younger Bush courted the right and won their backing through two presidential victories. Recently, however, many have abandoned him in disputes over immigration, deficit spending, and what some conservatives see as lack of White House assertiveness on social causes such as outlawing abortion and gay marriage.

    _Economy: The father's astronomical poll numbers from the Gulf War evaporated in a weak economy and amid a widespread perception he was out of touch.

    For the younger Bush, the economy has grown for more than four years. But the outlook is clouded by instability in the Middle East, soaring gasoline prices and other signs of rising inflation, higher interest rates and a housing slowdown.

    Bill Kristol, who was Vice President
    Dan Quayle's chief of staff in the first Bush administration, said the current president's recent humility on Iraq and admission of mistakes might be "just adjusting to reality."

    Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard, said a rebound from the lows charted by the elder Bush is possible — and that recent staff changes may help pave the way.

    "I think he can come back. Of course, it could get worse, but politics is pretty dynamic," Kristol said.

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    "winning a second term"

    ???

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    "Bill Kristol, who was Vice President Dan Quayle's chief of staff in the first Bush administration, said the current president's recent humility on Iraq and admission of mistakes might be "just adjusting to reality."

    I did not know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold9472
    "If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us." - George HW Bush
    What was that said in reference to? And where and when?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partridge
    What was that said in reference to? And where and when?
    I dunno... the original source used to be available on the internet. It was in response to a reporter's question...
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    He said it to Sarah McClendon.
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    December 1992.
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    Sarah McClendon: "George Bush, what will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra?"

    George H. W. Bush: "Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us."
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    Ha! Nice.

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