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    AuGmENTor Guest
    Maybe this comes from their just being covered better by the drive by media. THe same things happened in every major conflict in history. I don't know the documented name for it, but anyone who has served in a combat theatre knows that when things go crazy, people who ordinarily behave normally do things quite differently. It has to be just the right set of circumstances to cause these individuals to lose control lke that. I'm sure there is a documented term for this. Thankfully, I have know first hand experience of this, but I have seen people I knew and respected do it, they don't seem to be themselves at the time... I'm not making excuses for them, but it is odd. And those who don't fall into this category are just evil, and gravitate to military service (especially during wartime) to "legally" get away with these things. ANyone who thinks this is an isolated incedent has their head firmly planted up their rectums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuGmENTor
    Maybe this comes from their just being covered better by the drive by media. THe same things happened in every major conflict in history. I don't know the documented name for it, but anyone who has served in a combat theatre knows that when things go crazy, people who ordinarily behave normally do things quite differently. It has to be just the right set of circumstances to cause these individuals to lose control lke that. I'm sure there is a documented term for this. Thankfully, I have know first hand experience of this, but I have seen people I knew and respected do it, they don't seem to be themselves at the time... I'm not making excuses for them, but it is odd. And those who don't fall into this category are just evil, and gravitate to military service (especially during wartime) to "legally" get away with these things. ANyone who thinks this is an isolated incedent has their head firmly planted up their rectums.
    When you train someone to be a killer, and you send them some place to kill, your gonna get a killa.

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    Rgr that

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    U.S. probe finds unprovoked killings in Haditha

    http://today.reuters.co.uk/misc/Prin...SA-HADITHA.xml

    Wed May 31, 2006 8:42 PM BST
    By Will Dunham

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A preliminary military inquiry found evidence that U.S. Marines killed two dozen Iraqi civilians in an unprovoked attack in November, contradicting the troops' account, U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

    President George W. Bush said he was troubled by news stories on the November 19 killings of men, women and children in the town of Haditha, and a general at the Pentagon said the incident could complicate the job for the 130,000 U.S. troops in Iraq.

    "Allegations such as this, regardless of how they are borne out by the facts, can have an effect on the ability of U.S. forces to continue to operate," Army Brig. Gen. Carter Ham, deputy director for regional operations for the military's Joint Staff, told a Pentagon briefing.

    Forensic data from corpses showed victims with bullet wounds, despite earlier statements by Marines that civilians were killed by a roadside bomb that also claimed the life of a Marine from El Paso, Texas, Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas, a defence official said.

    "The forensics painted a different story than what the Marines had said," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.

    The official said there were wounds that would not have been caused by an improvised explosive device. "Did someone shoot somebody just for the sake of taking him out?" the official said. "Bad things happened that day, and it appears Marines lied about it."

    "I am troubled by the initial news stories," Bush said at the White House. "I am mindful there is a thorough investigation going on. If in fact laws were broken there will be punishment."

    Residents of Haditha, 125 miles (200 km) northwest of Baghdad in an area that has seen much activity by Sunni Arab insurgents, have told Reuters that Marines rampaged through houses and shot civilians after their patrol was hit by the roadside bomb.

    The incident could represent the worst-known case of misconduct by U.S. troops in Iraq, and comes at a time when opinion polls show falling U.S. public support for the 3-year-old war. Ham emphasized the importance of U.S. troops having the support of the Iraqi people and government.

    TWO INVESTIGATIONS
    There are two ongoing military investigations.

    A probe by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, responsible for cases involving Marines, might lead to charges including murder, officials said. A separate fact-finding inquiry involves whether Marines tried to cover up the true nature of the incident, officials said.

    The defence official said the investigations should be completed in mid-June.

    A preliminary inquiry was ordered in February only after Time magazine presented the U.S. military with information casting doubt on the official military version of the incident -- that civilians had been killed along with the one Marine by a roadside bomb.

    Larry Cox, executive director of Amnesty International USA, said he was "deeply disturbed" by the allegations, adding, "These accusations, if proven true, may rise to the level of war crimes."

    The New York Times reported on Wednesday that the initial investigation in February and March led by Army Col. Gregory Watt uncovered death certificates showing the civilians were shot mostly in the head and chest. The Times said Watt reviewed military payments totalling $38,000 to families of victims.

    In an interview with CNN, the new Iraqi ambassador to the United States, Samir al-Sumaidaie, said there appeared to have been other unnecessary killings of civilians by Marines in Haditha, where some of his family lives.
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