Al-Qaida does not exist

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Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius

Well of course I knew that, everyone knows that. I'm saying if al-Qaeda doesn't really exist and is a creation of the CIA, then what were those trainning camps run by bin Laden up until the invasion? Ya know, the camps they show on tv all the time where dudes practice warfare. Those were run by al-Qaeda.

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They don't call themselves Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda is a government database of known or suspected terrorists. Its nothing but propaganda at this point. If any one of us gets picked up at a demonstration or 9/11 freedom march or something like that, under the Patriot Act we are suspected terrorists, and therefore we are suspected of being part of Al Qaeda.

Just government propaganda to label everyone who dares disagree with them as belonging to that big bad group of boogeymen that hate America's freedoms.

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Originally Posted by somebigguy

They don't call themselves Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda is a government database of known or suspected terrorists. Its nothing but propaganda at this point. If any one of us gets picked up at a demonstration or 9/11 freedom march or something like that, under the Patriot Act we are suspected terrorists, and therefore we are suspected of being part of Al Qaeda.

Just government propaganda to label everyone who dares disagree with them as belonging to that big bad group of boogeymen that hate America's freedoms.

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The way I know it, al-Qaeda, which means 'the base', was the name used by bin Laden and his mentor to keep track of fighters coming in and out of Afghanistan to fight the Soviets. Around 10 years later when he returned to fight the American's, they had no name, they didn't call themselves anything. Then after 9/11 they were labeled as al-Qaeda because it was easy.

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Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius

Well of course I knew that, everyone knows that. I'm saying if al-Qaeda doesn't really exist and is a creation of the CIA, then what were those trainning camps run by bin Laden up until the invasion? Ya know, the camps they show on tv all the time where dudes practice warfare. Those were run by al-Qaeda.

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Since the U.S. and their media co-conspirators are very good at what they do, most likely those videos were older then they appeared to be. What makes you think that those camps are recent. They could be from the 80's and early 90's. Please don't trust your TV for anything truthful. Keep an open mind, and look at who benefits. CNN was recently kicked out of Iran for completely misinterpreting a speech of the Iranian ambassador. I personally saw CNN give a complete redaction of what Iran accused them of. Watch the video of Bush introducing Porter Goss as the new director of the CIA. In it Bush says Goss will lead the way in the hunt for Bin Laden and you can watch Goss laughing in the background.

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Originally Posted by aceace

Since the U.S. and their media co-conspirators are very good at what they do, most likely those videos were older then they appeared to be. What makes you think that those camps are recent. They could be from the 80's and early 90's. Please don't trust your TV for anything truthful. Keep an open mind, and look at who benefits. CNN was recently kicked out of Iran for completely misinterpreting a speech of the Iranian ambassador. I personally saw CNN give a complete redaction of what Iran accused them of. Watch the video of Bush introducing Porter Goss as the new director of the CIA. In it Bush says Goss will lead the way in the hunt for Bin Laden and you can watch Goss laughing in the background.

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Just by looking at the trainning videos you can tell they were made at least in the 90's or early 2000. Journalists and media have even visited these camps. There's video of bin Laden walking around these camps and giving speeches. So those camps are real.

And Porter Goss laughing as Bush talks about the hunt for bin Laden is something that sounds intersting. I'd love to see a video of that.

The last Bin Laden video was determined to be fake. The man in the video had severaL facial features that were different. Whenever Bush poll numbers drop some type of new video or audio from some Al-CIAda just happens to find its way on national scene. Don't fall for their games. Remeber 90% of the general public is fairly sheepish. They believe whatever the 26" TV tells them.

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Originally Posted by aceace

The last Bin Laden video was determined to be fake. The man in the video had severaL facial features that were different. Whenever Bush poll numbers drop some type of new video or audio from some Al-CIAda just happens to find its way on national scene. Don't fall for their games. Remeber 90% of the general public is fairly sheepish. They believe whatever the 26" TV tells them.

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I know some of the tapes were fake, I made a thread about that 1-2 weeks ago. But those vidoes of al-Qaeda training in the 90's or early 2000, no one can question that, if so I'd like to see the proof.