cleveland mayor says flight 93 landed there..

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Originally Posted by amman254

ok bigguy, witnesses claim to have seen...about as many different things as there were on witnesses that day in pennsylvnia. we've discussed this almost into the ground at a german forum i visit, and basically, still no general consensus.

one thing about your suggestion..."if" the plane was brought to explosion above ground, or still in the air, they would have been recovering parts, pieces, and bodies, all the way from there to hell and back, and not just have that neat empty "little" hole, that was easy for them to fence off within a couple of miles, and not let any photographers in. this would not have been the case if a 757 had crashed in there, or had been blown up in the air.

to the link from global free press, that was posted earlier, here is another one, that is not just a time line...

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modul...hp?storyid=323

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Wasn't the debris scattered for miles around the crash site? I thought that was one of the anomolies of the crash scene that suggested the plane was shot down or blown up.

I really don't know, the flight 93 crash is the one I know the least about.

Thanks for the link BTW, I'm checking it out now...

That is some interesting stuff. I can't help but think that if we could figure out the Cleveland thing, we could finally conclude once and for all whether the planes were switched or not.

I'm theorizing that the plane with 200 passengers that landed because of a bomb threat, MAY HAVE BEEN THE WRONG PLANE!!! Maybe the FAA or whoever screwed up and radioed the wrong plane, told them to turn off their transponder and land in Cleveland.

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Originally Posted by somebigguy

Hey PG, flight 77 disappeared from radar up in W. Virginia I believe, so whatever hit the Pentagon wasn't 77, period. I suspect only 11 and 175 were switched with drones, and something was launched much closer to the Pentagon about 30 minutes later when the official story claims 77 suddenly appeared back on radar.

Also, whatever hit the Pentagon came in on that impossible angle to ensure it wasn't taken out by the anti-aircraft system installed at the Pentagon.

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Regarding what hit the pentagon, chech out this video if you havn't seen it:
http://yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5649
Problably not a "missle" like most people say it was.

As for the anti-aircraft system in the Pentagon, my understanding is that it was that it was turned off that day. Could be wrong though.

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Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius

Regarding what hit the pentagon, chech out this video if you havn't seen it:
http://yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5649
Problably not a "missle" like most people say it was.

As for the anti-aircraft system in the Pentagon, my understanding is that it was that it was turned off that day. Could be wrong though.

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I know,it wouldn't surprise me the anti-aircraft system would be turned off since Norad didn't bother showing up for work that day either.

I've seen that Pentagon video before, its really well done.

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Originally Posted by somebigguy

Wasn't the debris scattered for miles around the crash site? I thought that was one of the anomolies of the crash scene that suggested the plane was shot down or blown up.

I really don't know, the flight 93 crash is the one I know the least about.

Thanks for the link BTW, I'm checking it out now...

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heh bigguy, here's a nice compilation on flight 93...

http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.1212

and a question, can you speak german? i'm in a forum in germany where some good discussions have been taking place for several years, but it is obviously 98% in german.

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Originally Posted by amman254

heh bigguy, here's a nice compilation on flight 93...

http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.1212

and a question, can you speak german? i'm in a forum in germany where some good discussions have been taking place for several years, but it is obviously 98% in german.

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No, unfortunately I can barely speak English!!!

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Originally Posted by somebigguy

No, unfortunately I can barely speak English!!!

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LOL...right on!

Here's an interesting story about flt. 175

http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.17

Going back to the earlier debate, there is no way a missle or small plane can penetrate an advanced missle defense system by just coming in from a certain angle. If it comes from the sky, it will get shot down, unless of course it has some special technology on it. The only way to get passed a missle defense system is by coming from an extremly low alttitude, which obviously the plane did not.

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Originally Posted by PhilosophyGenius

Going back to the earlier debate, there is no way a missle or small plane can penetrate an advanced missle defense system by just coming in from a certain angle. If it comes from the sky, it will get shot down, unless of course it has some special technology on it. The only way to get passed a missle defense system is by coming from an extremly low alttitude, which obviously the plane did not.

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Flight 77, or whatever was supposed to be flight 77, did come in at an extremely low altitude. Supposedly it was flying at about 500 MPH a few feet off the ground.