What are your thoughts on UBL?

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10-19-2005, 06:16 PM
Gold9472

I hate to be a ball-buster with sourcing, but it's imperative for later use...
10-19-2005, 06:18 PM
somebigguy

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Originally Posted by Gold9472

I hate to be a ball-buster with sourcing, but it's imperative for later use...

We're just chatting dude. What, I gotta justify everything I say to you now?
10-19-2005, 06:19 PM
somebigguy

http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/sep...den-denial.asp
10-19-2005, 06:20 PM
Gold9472

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Originally Posted by somebigguy

We're just chatting dude. What, I gotta justify everything I say to you now?

Sorry... I guess I'm pushing my standards on you.
10-19-2005, 06:20 PM
Gold9472

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Originally Posted by somebigguy

http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/sep...den-denial.asp

PERFECT.
10-19-2005, 06:23 PM
somebigguy

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Originally Posted by Gold9472

Sorry... I guess I'm pushing my standards on you.

Well fuck you and your standards. :-)

(I gotta put a little smiley face or Jon thinks I'm being serious)
10-19-2005, 06:31 PM
Gold9472

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Originally Posted by somebigguy

Well fuck you and your standards. :-)

(I gotta put a little smiley face or Jon thinks I'm being serious)

Well... the thing about BBs... you can say something... I'll know it's true, other people might know it's true... but a "new" person who reads it might not... you get the idea.
10-19-2005, 11:27 PM
PhilosophyGenius

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Actually, the day of the attacks he stated in no uncertain terms that he was not involved. In fact he suggested it was a rogue unit in the U.S. government....

Never heard that before.
10-19-2005, 11:37 PM
PhilosophyGenius

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Originally Posted by Gold9472

Well, it's completely obvious that Osama Bin Laden had PLENTY of CIA ties during the Afghanistan/Russia War. He would recruit soldiers FOR the CIA, through the Pakistani ISI, and they kept a tally of them through the database literally known as "Al-Qaeda".

Of course! You didn't think I knew that? (I'm insulted) What I meant was that there was, and is no proof that bin Laden is a CIA asset as of right now. I mean, after the Russian war he went back home and over a period of time became very critical of the U.S. At which point he waged a jihad against America. And like we've discussed before, maybe he kept in contact with a small faction in the CIA and collabortated for 9/11 not knowing the Bush team was involved. Just a theory of mine, makes sense if you think about it.

And regarding the fact that bin Laden "recruit soldiers FOR the CIA, through the Pakistani ISI". I don't think that's factually true. The way the story goes is that bin Laden went with his mentor Abdullah Azzam to Afghanistan and they formed al-Qaeda to keep track of the fighters coming in from around the world. (bin Laden was orginally only a finacier and supporter before joining the war himself). The role the CIA and ISI was supplying weapons and harbor and so forth. That's the only known/proven tie that would directly connect bin Laden with the CIA. As far as the French newspaper which reported that bin Laden meet with CIA guys in 2001, I don't think there's any solid proof to support that.

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