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thumper
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I see this brought up from time to time
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PhilosophyGenius said:Zionism:
A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/rabbi_quotes/weissmandl.cfmTEN QUESTIONS TO THE ZIONISTS
1. IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.
2. IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.
3. IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.
b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.
c) No ransom will be paid
4. IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.
5. IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.
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judging from their actions?Gold9472 said:Hold on. Who said it wasn't part of the agenda?
thumper said:judging from their actions?
thumper said:i'm differentiating between 'jews' and the state of Israel.
I'm saying they're primarily (only) interested in protecting the latter.
Gold9472 said:Protecting Israel was not their only goal.
1. Money
2. Power/Hegemony
3. Oil
4. The Protection Of Israel
5. The logistical placement of bases in that region for future use (Russia, China, Iran, etc...)
6. Drugs
7. The Dollar
thumper said:i tend to think that there is a hierarchy of power, like a pyramid. the lower levels are motivated by baser things, like money, sex, etc.
the ones at the top want rule Jerusalem, just like the Crusaders did and evey other group, believing that was the seat to rule the world.
whaddya think about that?
yes, but isn't it the case that every 'world dictator' or 'menace' has their own idea of what 'true Israel' or 'Jerusalem' is?Gold9472 said:I think if that was the case, they would have taken control of Israel a long time ago.