5 Tapes from 9/11

My buddy just dropped off 5 VHS tapes from the CNN broadcast on 9/11. I popped the first tape in and they're already interviewing William Rodriguez who was working in Tower 1 and heard explosions going off. I'm gonna take some notes and post them here.

I've been looking for live broadcasts for a long time and finally got them. Thanks to my buddy, although he's a putz.

Excellent

Yes!

I'm looking forward to hearing from you on what was said during the events..... you know, before instructions on what to say were given!

It looks like tape I'm watching was from the afternoon, so everything has already occurred and they're recapping endlessly. It's hard to tell what time it actually is, but they have mentioned "this afternoon" a couple of times so it's not as early as I would like.

Anyway, they have done some interesting interviews, here's one from William Rodriguez who was a maintenance worker at the WTC. He had a bit of an accent so he was a little hard to decipher:

"I Work in building 1, the one that got hit the first time. I was in the basement, which is a --unclear-- for the maintenance company. We hear like a big rumble, not like an impact, like a rumble, like something uh like --unclear--, all of a sudden, we hear another rumble and a guy comes running, running into our office and all his skin was off his body. All his skin, we went crazy, we started screaming, we told him to get out. We took everyone out of the office outside to the loading dock area. And then I went back in, and when I went back in. And when I went back in, I saw people, I heard people that were stuck on an elevator, a freight elevator, because all the elevators went down. And water was going in and they were probably getting drowned. And we get a couple of pipes and open the elevator and we got the people out. I went back up and I saw one of the officers from the Port Authority Police, I've been working there for twenty years, so I knew him very well. My routine on the World Trade Center is in charge of the stair case, and there was no elevator service, I have the master key for all the stair cases. So I went up with the police officers and a group of firemen. As we went up, there was a lot of people coming down, and while we got- it was very difficult to get up.

We heard, when we were on the 33rd, I'm sorry, the 23rd floor because we stopped there with the fire department because the equipment was very heavy and they were breathing very hard, they took a break, cause they couldn't continue going up, so they wanted to take a break. And we have a person in a wheel chair that we were gonna bring down on a gurney and a lady who was having trouble with a heart attack. And um, some of the guys that were breathing hard and we went a couple of floors up while they were putting the person on the gurney, got up to the 39th floor and we heard on the radio that the 63rd floor collapsed."

Jamie McIntyre/CNN Military Affairs Correspondent:

This is the same guy that we have a video of in the Pentagon thread. Turns out he actually has an office at the Pentagon, and he was allowed back on the premises afterwards to find the painted piece of metal.

"A while ago, I walked right up to next to the building where the firefighters were still trying to put out the blaze, the fire by the way is still burning in some parts of the Pentagon and I took a look at the huge gaping hole that's in the side of the Pentagon in an area of the Pentagon that has been recently renovated part of a multi-billion dollar renovation program here at the Pentagon. I can see parts of the airplane that crashed into the building, very small pieces of the plane on the heliport the outside of the building. The biggest piece I saw was about three feet long, it was silver and had been painted green and red but I could not see any identifying markings on the plane, I also saw a large piece of shattered glass, it appeared to be cockpit window from the plane."

Nic Robertson/CNN Correspondent in Kabul:

"We are hearing from Mola Omar (SP???) in the spiritual capital of Afghanistan. Mola Omar is the spiritual leader of the Taliban here, and has recently issued a short statement. In that statement he criticizes what he called the act of terrorism and he was very explicit, he said that Osama Bin Laden was not responsible for it, he says that all he wanted for his country was peace and peace for other countries in the world. He went on to say that he believed Osama Bin Laden could not have been responsible for such a complex act of terrorism, and he also said that Afghanistan was a poor country and there was no way Afghanistan could have been involved in such a complicated act of terrorism."

Reporter to Giuliani at about 2:40 PM:

The spin begins:

Reporter: Do you know anything about the cause of the explosions that brought the two buildings down yet, were they caused by the planes or something else?

Giuliani: We believe that it was caused by the after affects of the planes hitting the buildings, we don't of additional explosives (looks behind at an advisor(???) who nods no)

oh my ... this is so captivating to read, in a very grewsome way. The maintainence worker's account is so graphic ... and so very heroic. He did that all without even thinking about it.

There had to be people in the city with camcorders at the time of the attacks. Some of those must have survived. I wonder if any private citizens are holding onto something.

danceyogamom said:

oh my ... this is so captivating to read, in a very grewsome way. The maintainence worker's account is so graphic ... and so very heroic. He did that all without even thinking about it.

There had to be people in the city with camcorders at the time of the attacks. Some of those must have survived. I wonder if any private citizens are holding onto something.

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It's amazing watching this, and you're right, that Rodriguez guy was heroic. His statements may be key, I've been talking to a fellow named Christopher on another board about Rodriguez, and then his interview is the first thing on these tapes.

Christopher pops in on these boards every now and then, calls people names, and then leaves. He's a good guy, just slightly insane. Even moreso than Gold.

somebigguy said:

It's amazing watching this, and you're right, that Rodriguez guy was heroic. His statements may be key, I've been talking to a fellow named Christopher on another board about Rodriguez, and then his interview is the first thing on these tapes.

Christopher pops in on these boards every now and then, calls people names, and then leaves. He's a good guy, just slightly insane. Even moreso than Gold.

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has Christopher posted anything here? I've missed it if he has ...

more insane than Gold? goodness ... *lol*

I am consistently amazed at how people manage to interview and track down so much information. It is a real testament to how much one person can do to make change.

somebigguy said:

It's amazing watching this, and you're right, that Rodriguez guy was heroic. His statements may be key, I've been talking to a fellow named Christopher on another board about Rodriguez, and then his interview is the first thing on these tapes.

Christopher pops in on these boards every now and then, calls people names, and then leaves. He's a good guy, just slightly insane. Even moreso than Gold.

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Hey, I'm only moderately insane.

danceyogamom said:

has Christopher posted anything here? I've missed it if he has ...

more insane than Gold? goodness ... *lol*

I am consistently amazed at how people manage to interview and track down so much information. It is a real testament to how much one person can do to make change.

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Yeah, a while ago, he called Gold a Miscreant or something like that. It was an accurate statement on his part.

Gold9472 said:

Hey, I'm only moderately insane.

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And there's nothing wrong with that.

somebigguy said:

Yeah, a while ago, he called Gold a Miscreant or something like that. It was an accurate statement on his part.

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I don't think that was Christopher. That's why there's a "Christophera" here now...

Yo Somebigguy.

Thanks for the Sept. 11 accounts from those that were there.

It's important to get eyewitness accounts from the exact time. To discount the fabricated stuff.

How about the guy with his skin burned off? Right after Rodriguez hears the rumbles, a guy shows up with no skin? The plane hits the top floors, and Rodriguez sees a guy right after that noise (supposedly the plane) in the basement coming from 100 floors up with his skin burned off? Very weird. He must've been a fast runner (Or, how about, another explosion did this guy in?)..... of course, eyewitness accounts are always conflicting.... but I've heard a lot of accounts of multiple explosions within the buildings.... and then the building fall to the earth so perfectly. It's very confusing. Especially building 7. A building with minimal fire damage collapses in perfect implosion fashion, just like the owner of the building said it would (Larry Silverstein). So many questions.

People...... a quick message (a plea). Keep asking yourself about these occurrances. Don't become distracted by Survivor or American Idol or NCAA Basketball or Sitcoms.... those are great distractions.... but don't miss this chance to research about the most important event in your lifetime (up to now).

Good Doctor HST said:

Yo Somebigguy.

Thanks for the Sept. 11 accounts from those that were there.

It's important to get eyewitness accounts from the exact time. To discount the fabricated stuff.

How about the guy with his skin burned off? Right after Rodriguez hears the rumbles, a guy shows up with no skin? The plane hits the top floors, and Rodriguez sees a guy right after that noise (supposedly the plane) in the basement coming from 100 floors up with his skin burned off? Very weird. He must've been a fast runner (Or, how about, another explosion did this guy in?)..... of course, eyewitness accounts are always conflicting.... but I've heard a lot of accounts of multiple explosions within the buildings.... and then the building fall to the earth so perfectly. It's very confusing. Especially building 7. A building with minimal fire damage collapses in perfect implosion fashion, just like the owner of the building said it would (Larry Silverstein). So many questions.

People...... a quick message (a plea). Keep asking yourself about these occurrances. Don't become distracted by Survivor or American Idol or NCAA Basketball or Sitcoms.... those are great distractions.... but don't miss this chance to research about the most important event in your lifetime (up to now).

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I must admit, I was intentionally *not* thinking about they poor guy with no skin. That has to be one of the most personally disturbing images I can congure ... but you do make a very good point. Why was he in that condition so close to the ground?

somebigguy said:

Yeah, a while ago, he called Gold a Miscreant or something like that. It was an accurate statement on his part.

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a miscreant? I've only heard that term used in reference to children ... and then only in jest.

Gold9472 said:

I don't think that was Christopher. That's why there's a "Christophera" here now...

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Really??? He was a troll???

Good Doctor HST said:

Yo Somebigguy.

Thanks for the Sept. 11 accounts from those that were there.

It's important to get eyewitness accounts from the exact time. To discount the fabricated stuff.

How about the guy with his skin burned off? Right after Rodriguez hears the rumbles, a guy shows up with no skin? The plane hits the top floors, and Rodriguez sees a guy right after that noise (supposedly the plane) in the basement coming from 100 floors up with his skin burned off? Very weird. He must've been a fast runner (Or, how about, another explosion did this guy in?)..... of course, eyewitness accounts are always conflicting.... but I've heard a lot of accounts of multiple explosions within the buildings.... and then the building fall to the earth so perfectly. It's very confusing. Especially building 7. A building with minimal fire damage collapses in perfect implosion fashion, just like the owner of the building said it would (Larry Silverstein). So many questions.

People...... a quick message (a plea). Keep asking yourself about these occurrances. Don't become distracted by Survivor or American Idol or NCAA Basketball or Sitcoms.... those are great distractions.... but don't miss this chance to research about the most important event in your lifetime (up to now).

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Hey HST, there's still 4 and a half more tapes to go. Unfortunately, I can't tell what time it is. I know when Guiliani is taking it's about 2:40 because there is a clock on the wall behind him. Based on that, I'm guessing the video I'm watching begins about 12:30.

Regarding the guy with his skin falling off, it gets stranger. There's another fellow they interviewed that saw Rodriguez on the way up as he was going down. He said he figured it was Rodriguez because he saw the lady in the wheelchair. Anyway, as he was going down, around the 40th floor, the smoke got really thick and made it difficult to go any further. So if he's going down and the smoke is getting worse, then the smoke must be coming from somewhere below wouldn't you think? Couple that with the guy's skin falling off in the basement and it really sounds like something was going on far below the impact area.

What I'll do is start at the beginning and time it, when I get to the scene with Giuliani talking, I'll be able to figure out the approximate time these statements were made. There's a couple other statements I wanna go back and get so I'll do that, including the guy walking down the stairs and running into Rodriguez.

danceyogamom said:

I must admit, I was intentionally *not* thinking about they poor guy with no skin. That has to be one of the most personally disturbing images I can congure ... but you do make a very good point. Why was he in that condition so close to the ground?

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Another thing, anyone seen the Naudet video? When they first walk into the first tower that got hit, there was a guy on the floor ON FIRE. They didn't film it, they mentioned it, but didn't put the camera on him for obvious reasons.

Also, lots of the windows in the lobby, etc were blown out, they made the statement that the fire from the crash probably travelled down the elevator shaft to the lobby. Maybe that's what happened, however, I also heard the elevators were disjointed meaning they'd go up only 50 floors or so and then you'd get into another elevator to get up the next 50. That may or may not be true, just what I heard.

Definitely

The elevators didn't run straight from top to bottom.

Let's picture this...the plane hits and explodes in the tower. OK, I get that.

An elevator cart survives the destruction, fills with burning kerosene, makes it 78 floors down to the lobby, opens and said kerosene fire erupts from the compartment blasting out lobby windows. Can anyone visually imagine this scenario? To conjure up what it might have looked like is something Hollywood specialises in, not reality.

If I took a flamethrower and fired it at a plate glass window a few feet away, the pane would probably melt before it breaks.

High explosives going off in the sub levels would account for this.
That glass was exposed to an energy so strong, it shattered in place, from standing strong to pieces all over, in an instant.

As for the alleged burning corpse, I have to wonder...can a human being engulfed in flames live long enough to go down 78 floors and still have the life in them to stumble out of the elevator, dropping dead a few feet away?
Would someone on fire have the calm required to get in a closed-space elevator compartment, push the L button and wait it out?

Very convenient that the corpse wasn't shown. I wonder how many cameramen would have resisted the instinctual urge to "get the shot"
I mean, they enter the lobby unaware of the scenes to unfold before their eyes. I'm no camera guy but am I going out on a limb to suggest that the operator was seeing things through the lens? When you're looking through the viewfinder, you're locked in and unable to "look around" beyond the point of focus, right? That's why the handy-cams all have fold-out screens these days. It's much easier to get the shot looking with both eyes at a small screen. The pros still use the "scope" obviously and I believe Naudet was using something a bit better than consumer handy-cam offerings.

I find it very, very peculiar that a professional camera operator walking into a "war zone", film rolling and locked in to his view-finder, DIDN'T get the shot of the burning corpse.

Does the footage roll along un-cut in this alleged burning corpse moment?

If so, I am amazed that Naudet pulled off this editing-room censoring while filming the piece live and un-scripted. What camera jockey alive could match this achievement??

He's squinting through the lense, assumedly missing out on anything around him outside of his camera's focus. Not one inch of the said burning man appears in the footage. How did he go by it so non-chalantly?

Did he open his left eye for a second, see the burning corpse nearby, and judge it to be unsuitable and too graphic, and kept on filming what lied ahead? What camera jockey alive would do this or even be capable of this, I ask again? Not even a brief shot? Nothing? This is the stuff editing rooms were designed for!! This is the stuff that surfaces on the internet years later for all sickos to enjoy.

Isn't this the same guy that was casually filming some firemen going about their business, heard jet engines and turned his camera towards the direction the firemen's attention? The same guy that then "instinctively" framed the WTC towers and caught the alleged F 11 hitting the tower and exploding? This guy is "good" right?(so good that he zoomed in on the tower only when the explosion began to erupt, after the plane was safely inside)

This Naudet thing is psy-ops super-size, IMO.