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Gold9472
01-17-2005, 02:38 PM
Journalist: U.S. planning for possible attack on Iran
White House says report is 'riddled with inaccuracies'

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/16/hersh.iran/

Monday, January 17, 2005 Posted: 8:11 AM EST (1311 GMT)

Seymour Hersh said his information on Iran came from "inside" sources.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has been carrying out secret reconnaissance missions to learn about nuclear, chemical and missile sites in Iran in preparation for possible airstrikes there, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.

The effort has been under way at least since last summer, Hersh said on CNN's "Late Edition."

In an interview on the same program, White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett said the story was "riddled with inaccuracies."

"I don't believe that some of the conclusions he's drawing are based on fact," Bartlett said.

Iran has refused to dismantle its nuclear program, which it insists is legal and is intended solely for civilian purposes. (Full story)

Hersh said U.S. officials were involved in "extensive planning" for a possible attack -- "much more than we know."

"The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids," he wrote in "The New Yorker" magazine, which published his article in editions that will be on newsstands Monday.

Hersh is a veteran journalist who was the first to write about many details of the abuses of prisoners Abu Ghraib in Baghdad.

He said his information on Iran came from "inside" sources who divulged it in the hope that publicity would force the administration to reconsider.

"I think that's one of the reasons some of the people on the inside talk to me," he said.

Hersh said the government did not answer his request for a response before the story's publication, and that his sources include people in government whose information has been reliable in the past.

Hersh said Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld view Bush's re-election as "a mandate to continue the war on terrorism," despite problems with the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

Last week, the effort to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq -- the Bush administration's stated primary rationale for the war -- was halted after having come up empty.

The secret missions in Iran, Hersh said, have been authorized in order to prevent similar embarrassment in the event of military action there. (Full story)

"The planning for Iran is going ahead even though Iraq is a mess," Hersh said. "I think they really think there's a chance to do something in Iran, perhaps by summer, to get the intelligence on the sites."

He added, "The guys on the inside really want to do this."

Hersh identified those inside people as the "neoconservative" civilian leadership in the Pentagon. That includes Rumsfeld, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith -- "the sort of war hawks that we talk about in connection with the war in Iraq."

And he said the preparation goes beyond contingency planning and includes detailed plans for air attacks:

"The next step is Iran. It's definitely there. They're definitely planning ... But they need the intelligence first."

Emphasizing 'diplomatic initiatives'

Bartlett said the United States is working with its European allies to help persuade Iran not to pursue nuclear weapons.

Asked if military action is an option should diplomacy fail, Bartlett said, "No president at any juncture in history has ever taken military options off the table."

But Bush "has shown that he believes we can emphasize the diplomatic initiatives that are under way right now," he said.

Hersh said U.S. officials believe that a U.S. attack on Iran might provoke an uprising by Iranians against the hard-line religious leaders who run the government. Similar arguments were made ahead of the invasion of Iraq, when administration officials predicted U.S. troops would be welcomed as liberators.

And Hersh said administration officials have chosen not to include conflicting points of view in their deliberations -- such as predictions that any U.S. attack would provoke a wave of nationalism that would unite Iranians against the United States.

"As people say to me, when it comes to meetings about this issue, if you don't drink the Kool-Aid, you can't go to meetings," he said. "That isn't a message anybody wants to hear."

The plans are not limited to Iran, he said.

"The president assigned a series of findings and executive orders authorizing secret commando groups and other special forces units to conduct covert operations against suspected terrorist targets in as many as 10 nations in the Middle East and South Asia," he wrote.

Under the secret plans, the war on terrorism would be led by the Pentagon, and the power of the CIA would be reduced, Hersh wrote in his article.

"It's sort of a great victory for Donald Rumsfeld, a bureaucratic victory," Hersh told CNN.

He said: "Since the summer of 2002, he's been advocating, 'Let me run this war, not the CIA. We can do it better. We'll send our boys in. We don't have to tell their local military commanders. We don't have to tell the ambassadors. We don't have to tell the CIA station chiefs in various countries. Let's go in and work with the bad guys and see what we can find out.'"

Hersh added that the administration has chipped away at the CIA's power and that newly appointed CIA Director Porter Goss has overseen a purge of the old order.

"He's been committing sort-of ordered executions'" Hersh said. "He's been -- you know, people have been fired, they've been resigning."

The target of the housecleaning at the CIA, he said, has been intelligence analysts, some of whom are seen as "apostates -- as opposed to being true believers." (Full story)

My Naked Ego
01-17-2005, 03:42 PM
I read about this today...seems to me like we are going from Country to Country to carry out "diplomatic initiatives"

Gold9472
01-17-2005, 03:46 PM
I read about this today...seems to me like we are going from Country to Country to carry out "diplomatic initiatives"

"Spreading Peace & Freedom"

somebigguy
01-17-2005, 06:43 PM
Looks like they are carrying on with their plans regardless of the disaster Iraq became. Gotta get the oil, keep the SUVs running.

Gold9472
01-17-2005, 06:52 PM
Looks like they are carrying on with their plans regardless of the disaster Iraq became. Gotta get the oil, keep the SUVs running.

SUV's should be outlawed.

Reamo
01-17-2005, 07:08 PM
It's hard to imagine how we would accomplish an invasion of Iran. The country is significantly larger and more affluent than Iraq. The political situation approaches a theocracy, not a dictatorship. There is no real majority that would support us as supposedly exists in Iraq. The world community would never sign on and we are tapped out in Iraq. Maybe in a few years if iraq goes democratic - But, what chance is there for that?

Gold9472
01-17-2005, 07:09 PM
It's hard to imagine how we would accomplish an invasion of Iran. The country is significantly larger and more affluent than Iraq. The political situation approaches a theocracy, not a dictatorship. There is no real majority that would support us as supposedly exists in Iraq. The world community would never sign on and we are tapped out in Iraq. Maybe in a few years if iraq goes democratic - But, what chance is there for that?

What if Israel decided to help us?

Reamo
01-17-2005, 07:15 PM
It'd be like kicking a hornet's nest. Every arab country in the world would jump in. It would be the excuse that Egypt, Jordan, SA, etc. are looking for to create a coalition. Probably be the end of Israel or at least lead to some nukin.

Gold9472
01-17-2005, 07:19 PM
It'd be like kicking a hornet's nest. Every arab country in the world would jump in. It would be the excuse that Egypt, Jordan, SA, etc. are looking for to create a coalition. Probably be the end of Israel or at least lead to some nukin.

Well.. the rumor on the hill is that Israel has been supplied new weapons, and such... by us.

Reamo
01-17-2005, 07:33 PM
I'm going to start a new thread to explore the nuclear situation in the Middle East :)

Gold9472
01-17-2005, 07:34 PM
I'm going to start a new thread to explore the nuclear situation in the Middle East :)

Go right ahead... I wish people would start creatin' threads... threads, threads... EVERYWHERE THREADS!!! MWAHAHAHAHHA!!!

Reamo
01-17-2005, 07:46 PM
Thread launched and moving toward target :eek:

Gold9472
01-17-2005, 07:47 PM
Thread launched and moving toward target :eek:

I already posted in it... :D

Reamo
01-17-2005, 07:52 PM
My puters been running slow. Might have a bug in it

Gold9472
01-17-2005, 07:55 PM
My puters been running slow. Might have a bug in it

Sounds like an I-D-10-T error.

Reamo
01-17-2005, 07:56 PM
Whassat?

Gold9472
01-17-2005, 07:58 PM
Whassat?

An I-D-10-T error... come 'on... you've heard of those.

Reamo
01-17-2005, 08:09 PM
Sounds like apple-speak to me. I have a real computer. Plus, I have an army of nerds if I really need them - just have to let them out out of their cave :rolleyes:

Gold9472
04-01-2005, 08:17 PM
bump

Gold9472
11-19-2005, 11:48 PM
bump