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Gold9472
12-06-2005, 08:44 PM
Lieberman Calls For Formation Of 'War Cabinet'

http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-lieb-warcab,0,1888370,print.story?coll=hc-big-headlines-breaking

By DAVID LIGHTMAN
December 6 2005, 11:43 AM EST

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, increasingly isolated in his own Democratic party because of his strong support for the Iraq war, today called on the White House and congressional leaders to form a special "war cabinet" to provide advice and direction for the war effort.

The Connecticut Democrat's "Bipartisan Victory in Iraq Administrative Group," designed to take some of the political edge off the war debate, would be modeled after similar panels during the Vietnam War and World War II.

Lieberman, whom the Bush administration has praised repeatedly for his war stance, defended the president. "It's time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge he'll be commander-in-chief for three more years," the senator said. "We undermine the president's credibility at our nation's peril."

There was no immediate response from the White House or congressional leaders.

Lieberman made his comments to an audience at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a sympathetic Washington research group. The war debate, Lieberman said, is being too poisoned by partisanship.

He cited the mood after Bush's speech last week in Annapolis, where the president laid out a war strategy.

Instead of reasoned dialogue, Lieberman said, there were angry press conferences questioning the administration's tactics. But look more closely, he said, and "there is broad bipartisan agreement on the goals. There are disagreements about the tactics."

Lieberman cited historic figures like former British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and former U.S. Sen. Arthur Vandenberg, whose call for bipartisanship after World War II helped the Allied effort to rebuild Western Europe, and tried to summon their spirit.

"We can't tolerate the kind of division that current exists in our country," the senator said. "Why are we fighting among those who have the same goals?"

The senator could face a challenge from former Sen. Lowell Weicker, whom Lieberman defeated in 1988. Lieberman only smiled today when asked if Weicker would be a tough opponent.

"I understand the position I'm taking on the war in Iraq is controversial," Lieberman said. "In a sheer political sense, it would be easier to keep quiet."

As for Weicker, he would only say, "I'm very grateful to the people of Connecticut to serve them in the Senate the last 17 years. I'm proud of what I've been able to do."

Lieberman said he had not yet figured out details of how his cabinet would work. It would probably meet weekly and discuss conditions in Iraq, and perhaps recommend policy.

Decisions on spending and how to implement and execute policy would remain with the executive and legislative branches.

Lieberman plans to send a letter to congressional leaders and the White House today outlining his proposal.

jetsetlemming
12-06-2005, 09:01 PM
What's your problem with the highlighted section? Barring a impeachment, he'll be here.

Gold9472
12-06-2005, 09:04 PM
What's your problem with the highlighted section? Barring a impeachment, he'll be here.

He's supposed to be a "Democrat"... the "opposition"... someone who is supposed to be "partisan" in nature... which means he should feel nothing but contempt for this President... by stating that he will be here for another 3 years, means that he has no intention of holding this President accountable...

jetsetlemming
12-06-2005, 09:07 PM
Being an opponent doens't mean your supposed to hate your opposition. Just because he's a democrat doesn't mean he has to hate a republican president. All he was saying is that Bush is still the president for three more years, and the democrats should realize that.

Gold9472
12-06-2005, 09:15 PM
Being an opponent doens't mean your supposed to hate your opposition. Just because he's a democrat doesn't mean he has to hate a republican president. All he was saying is that Bush is still the president for three more years, and the democrats should realize that.

A "Democrat" is someone who is supposed to stand for Democratic ideals. The Bush Administration, or "Neocons" do not believe in "Democratic Ideals" to the point of being criminal. A True "Democrat" should sharply oppose this Administration. To say he'll be there for 3 more years, means he has no intention of opposing this Administration. If he had included what you said, such as... "Unless we have the ability to get this corrupt President out of office, he will remain there for 3 more years", then that would have been a whole new ballgame.

jetsetlemming
12-06-2005, 09:18 PM
The parties are meaningless as far as actual points of view are concerned. The republicans are largely pro-life, but Guiliani is pro-choice. There's no point in comparing ideology based on the party system, considering the politicians join the parties for the political advantage.

jetsetlemming
12-06-2005, 09:19 PM
I thought thats why you said you liked the idea of a third party candidate, Gold.

Gold9472
12-06-2005, 09:25 PM
Your "point of view" dictates your party. Your "belief system"... I'm not saying that the Democrats, and Republicans, on both sides of the isle don't believe differently than they're supposed to. A lot of that has to do with the fact that they're the ONLY two parties allowed. I'm saying a "True" Democrat, and a "True" Republican should, for the most part, feel a certain way about things. The purpose of this thread was to show that Joe Lieberman most certainly believes the exact opposite of what his party is supposed to believe. His beliefs are more in line with the "Neocons"...

jetsetlemming
12-06-2005, 09:28 PM
It's not like his conservatism was any secret. Remember his campaign for censoring tv and video games?

Gold9472
12-06-2005, 09:47 PM
It's not like his conservatism was any secret. Remember his campaign for censoring tv and video games?

I said, NEOconservatism... or "Neocon"...

jetsetlemming
12-06-2005, 09:51 PM
What part of what's in that article adds the neo part?

Gold9472
12-06-2005, 09:54 PM
What part of what's in that article adds the neo part?

That he supports the war. Who supports a war based on lies?

jetsetlemming
12-08-2005, 08:27 PM
I do. I believe that some good can be done, even if it was started on false pretences.