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Gold9472
08-11-2005, 10:22 PM
Congressman Wants Another Look at 9/11 Commission Probe

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-08-11-voa35.cfm

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CurtPA07@mail.house.gov

By Jim Malone
11 August 2005

A member of Congress is calling for an investigation into why the independent commission that probed the 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States ignored information that some of the September 11 hijackers had been identified as potential threats more than a year before the attacks.

Republican Congressman Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania says a secret military intelligence unit called Able Danger identified well in advance four of the 19 hijackers in the 9/11 attacks on New York, Washington and Pennsylvania as potential terrorist threats.

"They said we actually identified in this process Mohammed Atta's cell in 1999 and in September of 2000, on three separate occasions, we made recommendations to bring in the FBI to share with them the data we had on Mohammed Atta's cell. The [government] lawyers told us we could not do that," he said.

Congressman Weldon says he wants a congressional investigation to determine who prevented the information from being shared and why the independent commission probing the attacks did not include the episode in its final report last year.

Congressman Weldon says one of the unidentified military intelligence analysts did talk to staff members of the 9/11 commission just days before the final report was issued.

But a co-chairman of the commission, former Congressman Lee Hamilton, told CBS television that information was not made available to the commission members.

"After all, that name was very familiar to us and if his name had been mentioned it would have set off all kinds of alarm bells and it would become a focus of our investigation," he said.

A group of 9/11 widows has joined the call for an investigation. They said they were disturbed to learn that the commission may not have been informed about the possibility that intelligence analysts had identified a terrorist cell well in advance of the 2001 attacks.

princesskittypoo
08-11-2005, 10:43 PM
i wish people would take care of their citizens in this country.... if they had been caught 9-11 might still have happened but at least we'd not be letting people through the cracks so obviously.

somebigguy
08-12-2005, 07:43 AM
More ammo for the widows, they will destroy this government.

Rese
08-12-2005, 07:55 AM
Evidence of co-op't b'twn FBI+Israelis+Arabs
Would someone please post these links?
http://seattle.indymedia.org/img/extlink.gif http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm (http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm)
More recent accounts of the Israeli spy ring, their case against imprisonment, location near anthrax
Lists all names, and obstruction of justice by Ashcrop NEW INFO 8/7

in www.vaticanassassins.org (http://www.vaticanassassins.org) Bush Al Queda, China Read the pdf file, save it, and copy it to local law enforcementFBI knew about first trade center bombing, Oklahoma bombing, 911 attack. Some privileged were warned, they could have stop it byt did not.
HARD FACTS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT 9-11

The PDF file has positive evidence the FBI knew of each of the attacks:WTC bombing
Oklahoma
WTC and Pentagon
a Melvin Latimore was at all three
Important people were warned- a Judge
Yet the FBI let it happen, they stayed out of the building that day.

Excerpts:
Attorney General Ashcroft ordered OKC FBI agent Dan Vogel not to testify or make public statements about what the FBI did with evidence concerning ME terrorist involvement provided to the FBI by Jayna Davis in 1999.
Citing national security grounds, a three judge panel of the tenth circuit court of appeals in Denver refused to order the US government to turn over evidence of US foreknowledge of a ME terror connection to the OKC bombing. The evidence was summarized in a Writ of Mandamus filed by McVeigh defense attorney, Stephen Jones in March 1996.
It is troubling that the man who brought McVeigh’s Iraqi helper to OKC is former CIA director Woolsey, the same man who vetted Jayna Davis’ book on the OKC bombing, “The Third Terrorist”. It is even more troubling when one considers that fact that the 13 year Florida monitoring of professor Sammy AlArian’s terrorists and the recruitment operation with Roger Moore, McVeigh, William Northrup, the FBI and Israeli intelligence was known to the CIA and therefore should have been known to the CIA director at the time, James Woolsey.
It is troubling that the man who brought McVeigh’s Iraqi helper to OKC is former CIA director Woolsey, the same man who vetted Jayna Davis’ book on the OKC bombing, “The Third Terrorist”. It is even more troubling when one considers that fact that the 13 year Florida monitoring of professor Sammy AlArian’s terrorists and the recruitment operation with Roger Moore, McVeigh, William Northrup, the FBI and Israeli intelligence was known to the CIA and therefore should have been known to the CIA director at the time, James Woolsey.
Respected Republican leader and journalist Kenneth Timmerman reported in his January 2004 article “Dana Rohrabacher's Troubling Friends” that Rohrabacher has ties to radical Muslims connected to terrorism. Timmerman has written several articles and a book warning of Rohrabachers, GW Bush's and Carl Rove's strong connections via Grover Norquist to terrorist individuals and organizations including but not limited to CAIR, the American Muslim Council, and AlQaeda backers like Khalid Mahfouz, professor Sammi AlArian, and Mr. Alamoudi

Although Timmerman writes of Rohrabacher's blind spot when it comes to Muslim backed terrorist groups, it is potentially much worse than that. Anything that Rohrabacher would learn from investigators about ME terrorist and FBI collusion with ME terrorists in the OKC bombing could be minimized by Rohrabacher to limit damage to himself and to his colleagues-those Republican Congressman and Senators (during the Clinton administration) who had oversight responsibility over the FBI and CIA, had foreknowledge of ME connections to OKC, and covered up the OKC bombing operation.
The public should be gravely concerned that officials in the US government used provocateurs in the OKC bombing, failed to warn the public, failed to stop the bombing, and have taken illegal measures to continue covering up these failures and the use of provocateurs.

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=2927 (http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=2927)
Excerpts:
Khalid Mohammed and Melvin Lattimore were involved in the OKC bombing, 9/11 attacks and 1993 WTC bombing and the FBI knew this in advance of these attacks. "....
"It has been reported piecemeal in the media over the past ten years that at least 17 men besides Terry Nichols and McVeigh’s neighbor, Michael Fortier, spoke to Timothy McVeigh about attacking a federal building before the OKC bombing. The reports show that all of these men had well established ties before the OKC bombing to one or more of the federal agencies, DEA, FBI, BATF, CIA, DOJ, and the US State Department. The 17 men include Roger Moore, Melvin Lattimore, James Rosencrans, Peter Ward, Tony Ward, Kevin McCarthy, Peter Langan, Sean Kenny, Ronald Greisacher (Laycock), Robert Jacques, Gary D. Hunt, Al Hussain Hussaini (Iraqi), Andreas Strassmeyer, Anas Siddiqy, Asad Siddiqy, Mohammed Chafti, Dave Holloway.

An analysis of the FBI and DOJ conduct to suppress evidence and witnesses in the OKC bombing case reveals a consistent pattern of actions designed to hide from the public and the courts and Congress that these 17 men had provocateur and/or informant roles that contributed to the OKC bombing, roles that included encouragement, training, providing explosive materials and in some cases assisting McVeigh in OKC at the scene of the bombing.

All of these men are known to have been seen by witnesses with McVeigh and are considered John Doe suspects by the public and witnesses. Yet the FBI and DOJ have insisted that McVeigh and Nichols had no help from John Doe participants and formally closed the OKC bombing case in early May 2005. OKC FBI senior case agent Jon Hersley has also insisted in his book “Simple Truths” and on the recent Fox News Special about the OKC bombing that McVeigh and Nichols had no help from John Doe suspects.
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After the 9/11 attacks, former President GHW Bush made public statements urging the public to be more accepting of US agents committing crimes (in violation of laws and the Constitution) inside the US in order for the agents to earn the trust of the terror groups they were trying to infiltrate and collect intelligence about. This philosophy has already been used badly in the past by the FBI in Boston organized crime cases and in the 9/11 attacks, the OKC bombing and the 1993 WTC attack. In these instances, the FBI allowed murders and crimes to be committed to protect FBI operations. And these operations often did not succeed in stopping the groups involved but did succeed in keeping the public from knowing of the FBI connivance and failures.

Attorney General (AG) Ashcroft and FBI director Mueller have blocked the Congress, courts and the public from knowing about these FBI failed operations by refusing to honor subpoenas, ordering FBI agents not to testify and by refusing to turning over ALL incriminating evidence such as ALL withheld FBI 302 interview reports and ALL surveillance tapes relating to major attacks in the US. And President GW Bush personally ordered that the Senate Intelligence Committee hearings on the FBI failures be seriously curtailed and that the House Government Reform Committee’s 13 subpoenas (to have been responded to on 9/11/02!) against AG Ashcroft on these matters not be honored. FBI agent Kelly was put in charge of controlling and manipulating the flow of information to the Intelligence Committee hearings even though Senator Grassley bitterly complained that FBI agent Kelly was the man who Senator Danforth had publicly charged with obstructing Danforth’s investigation of the FBI cover up of Waco.

Yet Ashcroft and Mueller and CIA director George Tenet have also publicly urged, like former President HW Bush, that Federal agents be allowed to commit illegal acts inside the US in order to provide what they term better human intelligence. These illegal acts would violate local, state and Federal laws as well as rights of citizens under the Constitution. Tenet and Mueller are holdovers from the Clinton administration that appear to be continuing to try to justify their using agents in both the Clinton and Bush administrations to commit crimes inside the US for intelligence purposes.

But there is other evidence of this wayward and lawless mentality of trying to justify criminal actions of Federal agents being continued from the Clinton administration to the Bush administrations. FBI agent Joseph G. Rogoskey filed a Federal lawsuit against FBI Direct Louis Freeh and AG Janet Reno in 2000 after Rogoskey was blocked from telling Congress about laws being broken inside the US by the FBI during national security operations.

The same conniving, reckless and poisonous philosophy and policy of allowing agents to break the law inside the US for national security operations as advocated by GHW Bush, Ashcroft, Reno, Mueller and Freeh was used by an FBI undercover agent to deliberately encourage the OKC bombing. This is according to what Congressman Ernest Istook of Oklahoma told an OKC bombing victim in a taped conversation. Istook told the victim that the FBI had used an undercover agent to help build the bomb in an effort to establish the agent’s credibility with other groups the FBI hoped to later arrest and discredit. Istook told the victim that the victim had no right to question the operation since it was a national security operation.

So like Khalid Mohammed, Lattimore was involved in all three terror attacks (OKC, 1993 WTC and 9/11) and known to the FBI either as an informant or from FBI informants or likely both. The FBI has chosen to put Lattimore out of reach with a conviction of carrying a firearm while being a felon to keep the press and public from knowing of the FBI connivance in these attacks with Lattimore, Khalid Mohammed and the FBI informants. In fact it is likely that Lattimore was an FBI informant and certainly was known to an FBI informant who reported him to the FBI as being involved in the attacks. FBI failure to take action against Lattimore for the attacks for so many years and to put him out of reach on a minor charge is further evidence of FBI connivance, that Lattimore was an FBI informant and that the FBI was complicit for failing to take action against Lattimore for the OKC and the 1993 WTC attacks when the FBI had enough time and knew to do so. But FBI foreknowledge from February 1995 of the Khalid Mohammed plot to fly airplanes in to US skyscrapers was not just supplemented by what the FBI learned in 1999 from the Norman, Oklahoma Airman flight school. The FBI also learned of the plans for the 9/11 attacks three years before 2001 by hijacker pilot Hanny Hanjour (who also traveled through Oklahoma-given a speeding ticket) from Phoenix FBI informant Adjae Collins . Collins told his story to ABC Pentagon reporter John McWethey a few months ago. Collins was one of the sources of information for the memo that FBI agent Kenneth Williams sent to the FBI in DC last summer warning the FBI of Bin Laden sponsored attacks in the US on US skyscrapers and government buildings. Kenneth Williams also sent his memo to the CIA and spoke to the CIA directly after the FBI in DC failed to act on his information

CHERTOFF CREATED TERROR PRETEXTS FOR US POLICE STATE
Patrick Briley
February 21, 2005
NewsWithViews.com

also:http://seattle.indymedia.org/img/extlink.gif http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/247435.shtml (http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/247435.shtml)
Comments: include above and Bushes Giving China nuclear technology

ehnyah
08-12-2005, 09:05 AM
New 9/11 revelations -- UPDATE

Wednesday, August 10, 2005
New 9/11 revelations -- UPDATE
(I just tried to post this one on the Bradblog. Egads! I'm still a little bamboozled by his interface. Glad to be back at good old Blogger, and I hope I didn't completely screw up Brad's site.)

UPDATE: As you read the piece below, keep in mind the report by Laura Rozen here. Weldon was peddling claims about the Iranian "threat," using information derived from a poor source. I do not think that this fact necessarily discredits what Weldon has to say about ABLE DANGER, since that story has a different source -- one which the New York Times interviewed directly, and apparently found credible.

Two separate sources have revealed startling new information about Mohammed Atta. Taken separately, these revelations are disturbing. Taken together, they could prove explosive.

As I write, the mainstream media is paying much attention to the first of these revelations, but seems chary of the second. Let's start with the big news:

Representative Curt Weldon (R-PA), Vice Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee has revealed that a specialized unit of the DIA, code-named ABLE DANGER (which was being run by the Special Operations Command in Tampa, Florida) had identified Mohammed Atta and other terrorist associates weeks before the presidential election of 2000. Atta was photographed and named as a member of al Qaida.

Although the unit had recommended action against Atta and the cell, a DOD lawyer allegedly nixed the idea, arguing that green card holders deserved the same privacy rights as American citizens. Almost needless to say, this argument is highly questionable.

Representative Weldon learned about his operation earlier this year. (I've called his office to find out exactly when, but have yet to hear back from his communications director.) Weldon's source was a former intelligence officer who has requested anonymity in news accounts. He has met with journalists for Government Security News and the New York Times. (See also here and here.)

According to the NYT, the office requested anonymity because "he did not want to jeopardize political support and the possible financing for future data-mining operations by speaking publicly."

If true, his reasoning indicates that Washington has become a very bizarre place indeed. The successful identification of Atta proved the value of "data mining;" the problem was the refusal by DIA higher-ups to act upon the information. Why would discussion of a success story jeopardize future funding for similar operations?

Which brings us back to the fundamental question: Why did higher-ups at the DOD refuse to share the information with the FBI?


"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN.

DoD lawyers may also have been reluctant to suggest a bold action by FBI agents after the bureau's disastrous 1993 strike against the Branch Davidian religious cult in Waco, TX, said Weldon and the intelligence officer.
This explanation seems particularly dubious when we recall the publicity given to pre-9/11 al Qaida attacks.

Partisans may suspect that presidential politics might have played a role. The 2000 campaign was underway; conceivably, Bush supporters within the DOD may have felt uneasy at the prospect of handing the outgoing Clinton administration a last-minute "win" against Osama bin Laden. Of course, this theory does not explain why the Bush administration took no action against Atta between inauguration and 9/11.

Another key question: Why was this information kept secret from the independent commission looking into the 9/11 tragedy? Although committee members were made aware that ABLE DANGER existed, they were not told about the identification of Atta. Why the secrecy?

Answers to these posers might lurk within the folds of the second story about Atta to come out in recent days...

This is the scandal few want to discuss, although a part of the story has made its way onto Talking Points Memo.
Atta, we should note, plays no role in the story under discussion there.

(What follows may seem like a diversion from our main story, but bear with me. We'll get back to Atta in a minute.)

The focus is on that notoriously shady Republican wheeler-dealer/lobbyist Jack Abramoff, whom Tom Delay considers one of his "closest, dearest friends." (For further background, you can't do much better than this TPM Cafe page.Josh Marshall draws our attention to this excerpt from an April 26, 2005 Miami Herald article, which reads like something out of Elmore Leonard:


In 2000, [Gus] Boulis sold [casino boat company] SunCruz to a partnership of Washington-based businessmen, including Jack Abramoff, the now infamous lobbyist who was surreptitiously funneling Indian casino millions to key congressmen, including the supposedly anti-gambling Republican leader, U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay. A congressional inquiry revealed that Abramoff, then vice chairman of SunCruz, used SunCruz casino money to bring staffers of key Republican congressional leaders to the 2001 Super Bowl.

Meanwhile, Boulis claimed that Abramoff and Adam Kidan had shorted him $23 million. There were reports of fisticuffs between Boulis and Kidan. Kidan took out a restraining order to keep Boulis away.

The restraining order became moot on Feb. 6, 2001, when Boulis was gunned down in a mob-style hit. The murder was never solved.

SunCruz, meanwhile, foundered into bankruptcy. Abramoff sued Kidan for the $60 million he claimed the deal cost him.
I cite this story to establish the links between Abramoff, powerful Republicans, and a milieu which will remind most readers of The Sopranos.

Casino ships are largely unregulated; by definition, they operate largely outside the borders of the United States. Boulis, the unfortunate previous owner of SunCruz, was under investigation for using his operation as a front for money laundering and other illegal activities.

Another party involved in money laundering was Osama bin Laden and his associates.

On September 26, 2001, Associated Press writer Vickie Chachere reported that FBI agents probing Atta's connections had turned their attention to SunCruz casinos -- then owned by Abramoff:


SunCruz Casinos has turned over photographs and other documents to FBI investigators after employees said they recognized some of the men suspected in the terrorist attacks as customers... Names on the passenger list from a Sept. 5 cruise matched those of some of the hijackers...
Since Abramoff used SunCruz to provide services to Republicans (we may safely presume that the Super Bowl junket wasn't the only occasion), I'd very much like to see that September 5, 2001 passenger manifest. Who was on the boat with the terrorists?

Several sources have noted that al Qaida operatives had a strange penchant for haunting casinos -- and few investigators believe that their purpose was gambling. For example, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported on November 4, 2001 that Atta and two other 9/11 terrorists took mysterious side trips to Las Vegas, in June and August; FBI investigators suspected that they may have been involved in the passing of counterfeit bills.

The Toronto Star of September 20, 2002 reported that members of al Qaida were arrested in Buffalo, New York, for participation in a money laundering scheme centered at the Casino Niagara.

We have excellent reason to suspect that a similar scheme prompted Mohammed Atta to hop aboard Jack Abramoff's SunCruz ship.

If -- and based on the current state of evidence, we must stresss the word "if" -- if further evidence links Mohammed Atta to G.O.P.-friendly shady operators, then many lingering questions may find an answer. Among those questions: Why was the ABLE DANGER team told to steer clear of Atta?

# posted by Joseph : 4:00 PM 10 comments

Comments:
June 21, 2005 -Venice, FL.
by Daniel Hopsicker
Less than a week before the 9.11 attack, for example, Atta and several other hijackers made a still-unexplained visit onboard one of Abramoff?s casino boats.

link to article in entirety


http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/08/new-911-revelations-update.html