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Gold9472
06-25-2005, 12:10 PM
Why is that everybody's response when you tell them about what we're doing. "If you don't like it, move..."

What if I don't want to move? What if I fucking love my country, and want to fight for it?

somebigguy
06-25-2005, 01:19 PM
Yeah, well those fuckers that tell you to move if you don't like it aren't the ones dying in a phony war on terrorism.

Keep on fighting and bring the boys (and girls) home, if those fuckers don't like it, they can move.

Gold9472
06-25-2005, 01:24 PM
Yea...

princesskittypoo
06-25-2005, 09:16 PM
exactly what were they not liking when they told you to move? i think it kind of depends on what the conversation was about.

somebigguy
06-25-2005, 10:09 PM
exactly what were they not liking when they told you to move? i think it kind of depends on what the conversation was about.
You know how those clowns are. Jon tells them about how wrong things are and how everyone should work together to try to change it, but you get the right wing neocon wackos who just say if you don't like it, get the hell out.

Gold9472
06-25-2005, 10:09 PM
I was watching the World Tribunal this morning, and I told someone about it... I said, "Do you realize that right now there is a World Tribunal taking place in Istanbul against the U.S.? The footage is horrible, we're horrible, etc...."

He said, "Move".

princesskittypoo
06-25-2005, 10:51 PM
I was watching the World Tribunal this morning, and I told someone about it... I said, "Do you realize that right now there is a World Tribunal taking place in Istanbul against the U.S.? The footage is horrible, we're horrible, etc...."

He said, "Move".
oh i know those type of people... *i shouldn't be saying type of people it's condescending*
i live around those people though... they are everywhere...
i hear them most when it involves foreign people in the u.s. like mexican people not speaking english while living in america... want to change the language to spanish? no just move. etc.

somebigguy
06-26-2005, 10:47 AM
I was watching the World Tribunal this morning, and I told someone about it... I said, "Do you realize that right now there is a World Tribunal taking place in Istanbul against the U.S.? The footage is horrible, we're horrible, etc...."

He said, "Move".
Next time tell them that you're not going to move, its your country, and you're going to do everything in your power to make the U.S. a respectable nation again. Then tell him that he and people like him are the problem.

And if they tell you its because of terrorism, you now have proof that nothing in Iraq is because of terrorism.

princesskittypoo
06-26-2005, 10:06 PM
somebigguy got smart! :)

somebigguy
06-26-2005, 10:28 PM
somebigguy got smart! :)
Don't be silly, I'm as dumb as they get!!!

danceyogamom
06-27-2005, 10:03 PM
Don't be silly, I'm as dumb as they get!!!

I don't believe that for a minute ...

danceyogamom
06-27-2005, 10:04 PM
I was watching the World Tribunal this morning, and I told someone about it... I said, "Do you realize that right now there is a World Tribunal taking place in Istanbul against the U.S.? The footage is horrible, we're horrible, etc...."

He said, "Move".

it makes me nuts how very little regard the nation has for the rest of the world.

Uber Commandante
06-28-2005, 01:40 PM
As is so often the case (and is so often overlooked), the answer to your questions can be found in the lyrics of Jello Biafra and the Dead Kennedys. Here is a song that references the attitude your are talking about.

Stars and Stripes of Corruption

*begin*

finally got to washington in the middle of the night
i couldn't wait
i headed straight for the capitol mall

my heart began to pound
yahoo! it really exists
the american international pictures logo

i looked up at the capitol building
couldn't help but wonder why
i felt like saying "hello, old friend"

walked up the hill to touch it
then i unzipped my pants
and pissed on it when nobody was looking

like a great eternal klansman
with his two flashing red eyes
turn around he's always watching
the washington monument pricks the sky
with flags like pubic hair ringed 'round the bottom

the symbols of our heritage
lit up proudly in the night
somehow fits to see the homeless people
passed out on the lawn

so this is where it happens
the power games and bribes
all lobbying for a piece of ass

of the stars and stripes of corruption

makes me feel so ashamed
to be an american
when we're too stuck up to learn from our mistakes
trying to start another viet nam
while fiddling while rome burns at home
the boss says, "you're laid off. blame the japanese"

"america's back," alright
at the game it plays the worst
strip mining the world like a slave plantation

no wonder others hate us
and the hitlers we handpick
to bleed their people dry
for our evil empire

the drug we're fed
to make us like it
is god and country with a bang

people we know who should know better
howl, "america rules. let's go to war!"
business scams are what's worth dying for

are the soviets our worst enemy?
we're destroying ourselves instead
who cares about our civil rights
as long as i get paid?

the blind me-generation
doesn't care if life's a lie
so easily used, so proud to enforce

the stars and stripes of corruption
let's bring it all down!

tell me who's the real patriots...
the archie bunker slobs waving flags?
or the people with the guts to work
for some real change

rednecks and bombs don't make us strong
we loot the world, yet we can't even feed ourselves
our real test of strength is caring
not the war toys we sell the world

just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms
old glory for a blanket
as you suck on your thumbs

real freedom scares you
'cos it means responsibility

so you chicken out and threaten me

saying, "love it or leave it"
i'll get beat up if i criticize it
you say you'll fight to the death
to save your useless flag

if you want a banana republic that bad
why don't you go move to one...

but what can just one of us do -
against all that money and power
trying to crush us into roaches?

we don't destroy society in a day
until we change ourselves first
from the inside out

we can start by not lying so much
and treating other people like dirt
it's easy not to base our lives
on how much we can scam

and you know
it feels good to lift that monkey off our backs

i'm thankful i live in a place
where i can say the things i do
without being taken out and shot
so i'm on guard against the goons
trying to take my rights away
we've got to rise above the need for cops and laws

let kids learn communication
instead of schools pushing competition
how about more art and theater instead of sports?

people will always do drugs
let's legalize them
crime drops when the mob can't price them
budget's in the red?
let's tax religion

no one will do it for us
we'll just have to fix ourselves
honesty ain't all that hard
just put rambo back inside your pants
causing trouble for the system is much more fun

thank you for the toilet paper
but your flag is meaningless to me
look around, we're all people
who needs countries anyway?

our land, i love it too
i think i love it more than you
i care enough to fight

the stars and stripes of corruption
let's bring it all down!

if we don't try
if we just lie
if we can't find
a way to do it better than this...
who will?

Gold9472
06-28-2005, 01:54 PM
Wow... nice lyrics...

"real freedom scares you 'cos it means responsibility"

That says it all...

dz
06-28-2005, 01:55 PM
one of the guys i work with said that shit the other day.

these are the same people that say 'get over it, you lost!'

these people just know catch phrases and to choose an 'R' and not a 'D'.. shut em down.