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Good Doctor HST
05-23-2005, 05:58 PM
From: iraqbodycount.net

PR11: Thursday 17th March 2005
Iraqi death toll spirals upwards; elections followed by increase in civilian casualties

On the 2nd anniversary of the Coalition invasion of Iraq, media-reported civilian deaths are approaching 20,000, and the death-rate is spiralling upwards.

Data provided on the http://www.iraqbodycount.net (http://www.iraqbodycount.net/) website show that, far from abating, the monthly death rate in 2005 continues to rise, and that the number of media-reported incidents involving the deaths of civilians and captives in the three months to March 2005 [376] is more than double the number for the same months a year ago [140]. April and November 2004 show the highest civilian death totals since the end of the "invasion phase", and result from the two US assaults on Falluja.

Particularly disturbing is that the death rate has increased since the January 31st elections. The reported death toll for February 2005 was 606. This is a significantly higher total than for January, which claimed 447 lives. These figures decisively rebut the claim that elections would lessen the intensity of the insurgency – an insurgency whose stated aim of US military withdrawal was not on the election agenda.

The table below shows provisional figures for each month since May 2003, when President Bush declared an end to "formal hostilities".

Iraq Body Count spokesman John Sloboda said "These emerging figures speak for themselves. The Iraqi people have suffered increasingly from the policies of governments who still refuse to either comprehensively assess or accept responsibility for the casualties that have resulted from their actions. In the absence of an official assessment, our researchers have now begun an intensive process of analysing all the original press and media stories, extracting more specific information about both victims and perpetrators in order to reveal in as much detail as possible what can be known about the nature, cause and distribution of civilian casualties in the first two years of this conflict. Today's data are the first fruits of this work, whose full results will be made publicly available in July, at the start of Britain's presidency of the EU and the G8."

Table: Minimum and maximum media-reported civilian deaths May 2003 – February 2005. Source: http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database (http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database)(as of 10:00 GMT Thursday 17th March 2005)

Reported Deaths

May 2003


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July 2003


August 2003


September 2003


October 2003


November 2003


December 2003


January 2004


February 2004


March 2004


April 2004


May 2004


June 2004


July 2004


August 2004


September 2004


October 2004


November 2004


December 2004


January 2005


February 2005


Press Contacts: John Sloboda John@iraqbodycount.org (John@iraqbodycount.org)
Hamit Dardagan Hamit@iraqbodycount.org (Hamit@iraqbodycount.org)

Good Doctor HST
05-23-2005, 06:06 PM
“Change the channel.”

- Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt's advice to Iraqis who see TV images of innocent civilians killed by coalition troops.

From: [NYT 12th April 2004 (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/12/international/middleeast/12MILI.html?position=&ei=5062&en=cdb236a08b2e9c97&ex=1082347200&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=)]

05-23-2005, 08:40 PM
?Change the channel.?

- Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt's advice to Iraqis who see TV images of innocent civilians killed by coalition troops.

From: [NYT 12th April 2004 (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/12/international/middleeast/12MILI.html?position=&ei=5062&en=cdb236a08b2e9c97&ex=1082347200&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=)]
well what sound advice... perhaps i should take it everytime pres. bush is on tv... it would make my day go a lot better, but wouldn't change the facts at all.