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02-12-2008, 07:18 PM
McCain is on his way to be the GOP nominee. Romney droped out and Huckabee doesn't have a chance.

Obama won all the primaries over the weekend (5) which puts him barely above Hillary. Polls show Obama may win more tonight. More elections coming up which could still put Hillary in the lead, especially with a big state like Texas with a large latino base going for Hillary.

It's also the first time Obama is in the lead in national polls.

Looks like Obama will get the nod but there are other factors including the votes of "superdelegates" (votes of party officials) if the amount of delegates is about even.

02-12-2008, 10:46 PM
If Ron Paul can't win, I hope Obama does.

I'm tired of the Bush/Clinton thing.

02-13-2008, 01:19 AM
Obama won't win. Do you honestly think the racist ownership class will allow a black man to be president?

This whole superdelegate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate)thing is really murky, and it sounds like the superdelegates will be the tie-breaker. I'm betting the Clinton backroom power takes effect then.

Weird, isn't it, that the media has, to my knowledge, never before discussed the superdelegate phenomenon? Now it seems to be everywhere.

02-13-2008, 01:57 AM
The more I hear Obama's speeches the more I want him to win. Now I really want him to win, he'd be a great leader for this country.

Obama could win by a landslide- no question about that (in my mind). All you have to do is look at how many white people are voting for him, now many indepedents and new voters and even republicans he's bringing in. He crosses racial boundries, plus a lot of conservatvies won't vote for McCain since he's pissed them off so many times.

Weird, isn't it, that the media has, to my knowledge, never before discussed the superdelegate phenomenon? Now it seems to be everywhere.

Yeah, I didn't know what that was either. They're talked about so much this time around because of how tight this race is on the democratic side. It's the tightest race in modern primary history.

02-13-2008, 03:27 AM
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/cfr_stacks_deck_with_dem_gop_presidential_candidat es.htm

"Barack Obama has captivated voters from all parties with his refreshing new style of rhetoric. He has the voting record to back his criticism of the Iraq war. But like his CFR colleagues, he vows to continue the pursuit of a shadowy enemy under the vague threat of "terrorism" - a policy that has cost citizens their personal liberties, trillions in debt and untold lives. The war on terror has been crafted to spend the US into bankruptcy and setup a domestic police state. Money continues to be being printed out of thin air by the private run-for-profit Federal Reserve, while China remains leveraged with over $1 trillion in US dollar holdings. In the middle east, the CFR's blank check for U.S. military operations will deplete U.S. resources while inciting sectarian strife and anti-U.S. sentiment, ignoring the history of blowback as documented by the CIA. Obama and other CFR candidates affiliation with the organization is not promoted on their websites or in any press releases because the organization has centralized political power and financial capital to set policy the public would otherwise oppose. The career politicians in the CFR know corporate sponsorship is frowned upon by voters. The Council is one of the major conduits between government and business leaders in the US. The CFR is guaranteeing power by owning all the horses in the race that is the 2008 election."

Meet the new boss... He's the SAME as the old boss...

Michelle Obama:


EDIT: Do "super"delegates change clothes in a phone booth then?

EDIT2: What a fucking patriot!:


02-13-2008, 04:56 PM
[b] Bill Clinton campaign chief backs Obama

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press WriterWed Feb 13, 11:29 AM ET

The man who served as national manager of former President Clinton's 1992 campaign plans to endorse Sen. Barack Obama, an aide to Obama said Wednesday.

Obama's campaign planned a 1 p.m. conference call Wednesday to announce the endorsement by David Wilhelm, who later became chairman of the Democratic National Committee, according to an aide who spoke on condition of anonymity because the announcement would be made public later in the day.

Wilhelm planned to tell reporters that Obama can build a coalition of Democrats, independents and Republicans needed to win the general election.

Wilhelm is a superdelegate who was previously uncommitted in the race. His endorsement helps Obama in the race for delegates, in which he pulled ahead after Tuesday's sweeps of primaries in Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia. Clinton remains considerably ahead in superdelegates, which are party officials, elected officials and others who can vote however they choose at the nominating convention.

If the race for pledged delegates based on outcomes in caucuses and primaries across the country remains tight, superdelegates could decide the nomination.

Obama leads the delegate race with 1,224 to 1,198 to Clinton, according to the latest count by The Associated Press.

02-13-2008, 09:02 PM
Wait, so Alex Jones things Obama is an insider?

Also for superdelegates, one of them said he liked the job because he got to vote for important stuff and get a really good seat at the convention- didn't think there'd be so much pressure.

02-13-2008, 09:59 PM
Wait, so Alex Jones things Obama is an insider?

Also for superdelegates, one of them said he liked the job because he got to vote for important stuff and get a really good seat at the convention- didn't think there'd be so much pressure.I kind of have to agree with Alex and dMole here Pg. I think the CFR has an agenda it's members will keep the ball rolling. :(

02-13-2008, 11:52 PM
PG, list Obamas top three accomplishments in his political career for me please.

02-13-2008, 11:52 PM
The rest of you SHHHHHHHH. PG, this is an open book test.

02-14-2008, 12:15 PM
PG, list Obamas top three accomplishments in his political career for me please.

He voted against the telecom immunity....that should count for something.

linkypoo (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015)

02-14-2008, 07:43 PM

02-14-2008, 09:41 PM
He also sponsored a bill declaring all those that post online in all caps fags. Many republicans are voting against it.

02-14-2008, 11:38 PM
Oh, I see how it is. Open rebellion, ay? I thumb my nose at you sir...

02-15-2008, 01:48 AM
He helped expand health care in Illinois state senate.

that's about all I know...he voted "present" a bunch of times instead of voting which sucks

02-15-2008, 11:45 PM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/february2008/140208obama.jpg Obama Pushes Bill That Would Mandate Global Tax
Senate to vote on legislation that would cost U.S. $845 billion, also enables UN to implement gun bans [i]Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet (http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html)
Thursday, February 14th, 2008

Presidential frontrunner Barack Obama is pushing a bill that will lead to the implementation of a UN global tax, costing the U.S. at least $845 billion dollars over thirteen years in the name of fighting worldwide poverty, as well as banning "small arms and light weapons".

The "Global Poverty Act," which is sponsored by Obama, is up for a Senate vote today, and if passed would mandate the U.S. to spend 0.7 percent of the gross national product on foreign aid, on top of the money being sent out of the country already.

The bill passed the House by a voice vote last year because most members failed to read what was actually in it. The words "global" and "poverty" in the title were presumably enough to convince them that it must be good.

In reality, the bill also "Commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child," writes Cliff Kincaid (http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/ckincaid/2008/ck_0213p.shtml).

"Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the U.N.'s "Millennium Project," says that the U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP in increased foreign aid spending would add $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already spends. Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.'s Financing for Development conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S. is expected to meet the "Millennium Development Goals," this amounts to $845 billion. And the only way to raise that kind of money, Sachs has written, is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels."

A UN controlled global tax has long been a cherished goal of the elite and they have attempted to piggy-back it on numerous different pretexts, most recently via a global carbon tax on fuel, a move that was advanced at the recent summit in Bali.

During the summit, over one hundred prominent scientists signed a letter dismissing the move (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/121407_carbon_tax.htm) as a futile bureaucratic scheme which will diminish prosperity and increase human suffering.

In 2005, former French President Jacques Chirac called (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2005/270105globaltax.htm) for the imposition of a global tax to finance the fight against AIDS.

Perfectly happy with giving Bush carte blanche to continue illegal spying on American citizens with the passage of this week's telecom immunity bill, the Senate seems destined to rubber stamp legislation that would lead to a global carbon tax.

President Bush has overseen the biggest increase in foreign aid since the Marshall Plan and is highly unlikely to veto the bill if it is passed.

Contact the Senate and voice your opposition to this bill. Call the switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and asked to be connected to the office of your Senator.

02-15-2008, 11:47 PM
As I said before, yet another turd in the bowl.

02-16-2008, 12:00 AM
Blech. I never really bothered looking anything up on this douche, but I knew he hadn"t done much of shit. Spending all of you guyses money and banning all of my guns seems to be what this fucker is all about. I am completely disgusted by this entire thing.