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Gold9472
10-30-2007, 01:05 PM
Bomb Iran, majority of Americans says in new poll

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bomb_Iran_majority_of_Americans_says_1030.html

Nick Juliano
Published: Tuesday October 30, 2007

Despite President Bush's perpetually abysmal approval ratings, it appears his increasingly hostile rhetoric against Iran has drummed up enough fear of a "nuclear holocaust" or a World War III that a majority of Americans are in favor of a US strike against the country aimed a curtailing its apparent nuclear ambitions, a new poll shows.

The Zogby International survey shows 52 percent of Americans would support a strike on Iran, while 53 percent expect President Bush to launch such an attack before the end of his second term. Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton is voters' No. 1 choice to deal with Iran, with 21 percent saying they would like to see her take on Tehran from the White House. Republican Rudy Giuliani was voters' second choice, with 15 percent.

Just 29 percent of Americans think the US should not attack Iran, with one in five people unsure about military action. Of those who would support a strike, 28 percent believe military action should wait until the next president is in office, while 23 percent want to see Bush let lose US missiles against Iran.

The poll results were viewed with a "Here we go again" attitude from bloggers chagrined at the apparent lack of lessons learned by Americans as the war launched against another hostile Middle Eastern regime stretches towards its fifth year.

"It is utterly stunning that, after the great difficulties we have clearly faced in Iraq (a situation far from finished, by the way), that an absolute majority would favor a strike on Iran at this time," writes Dr. Steven Taylor at PoliBlog. "Even if we assume that the die-hard 25%-30% who still approve of the way the President is doing his job also are in favor of such a strike, where do the other 27%-22% come from to get the pro-strike total to 52%?"

The support for an Iranian strike coincides with substantial fears of further terrorist attacks demonstrated in the Zogby poll. More than two-thirds of Americans (68 percent) believe another terrorist attack is likely on US soil and nearly one-in three believe such a strike will come before 2010.

Polls conducted prior to the invasion of Iraq showed larger majorities of Americans in favor of military action, and around 80 percent of Americans believed Iraq posed a threat to the United States in late 2002 and early 2003.

Don Surber, blogging for London's Daily Mail compared the speculation over a strike on Iran to another showdown over nuclear proliferation nearly half a century ago.

"I was in grade school when the Cuban Missile Crisis happened 45 Octobers ago. I was gung-ho for taking Castro out. Wiser heads prevailed — in the Soviet Union as well as the United States," he writes. "The security of the world rests on American shoulders. I’d bet against a military strike. There are enough wiser heads on both sides."

simuvac
10-30-2007, 02:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

Gold9472
10-30-2007, 02:58 PM
Yea man... let's bomb those fuckers that never attacked us, and don't have nuclear weapons.

AuGmENTor
10-30-2007, 06:08 PM
The US has the bomb, and we have USED it! Whose going to stop us?

DSM
10-30-2007, 06:37 PM
These two polls say the complete opposite:

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/15093

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/12114

Gold9472
10-30-2007, 06:42 PM
These two polls say the complete opposite:

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/15093

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/12114

I would be interested to see how the questions were raised.

Gold9472
10-30-2007, 06:45 PM
From Zogby (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1379), it says that, 52% of Americans would "support a U.S. military strike to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon." You can almost hear the echoes from PREVENT IRAN FROM BUILDING A NUCLEAR WEAPON weapon weapon

I imagine the question was something like, "Would you support a U.S. military strike to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon?"

Gold9472
10-30-2007, 06:51 PM
Oh geez... we can't have them having a nuclear weapon now... mushroom clouds? uh oh... not the mushroom clouds again... AAAAAHHHHH!!!

Click Here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2046393742348211186&q=Nuclear+Explosion&total=7620&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1)

PhilosophyGenius
10-30-2007, 07:05 PM
This is the brilliance of Hillary and her campaign.

News talked about how how Barrack and other Dems were attacking Hillary for her stance on Iran, yet Hillary's position matches most Americans, thus is better for her.

Not saying I agree, but Hillary will become Prez.

AuGmENTor
10-30-2007, 07:08 PM
Not saying I agree, but Hillary will become Prez.NOT!

Gold9472
10-30-2007, 07:19 PM
This is the brilliance of Hillary and her campaign.

News talked about how how Barrack and other Dems were attacking Hillary for her stance on Iran, yet Hillary's position matches most Americans, thus is better for her.

Not saying I agree, but Hillary will become Prez.

Obama himself said that he would strike Iran if need be. As far as "Hillary's position matches most Americans", I think that's still up for debate.

I bet if the poll asked, "Do you want to go to war with Iran?", the answer would be NO.

simuvac
10-30-2007, 11:15 PM
These two polls say the complete opposite:

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/15093

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/12114

The first poll is from March 2007, and the second is from 2006.

Remember the poll in 2006 that said 30% of Americans could not remember the year in which 9/11 happened? Yeah, that should give you an idea of the long-term memory of the average American.

So, March 2007 is like 1974 to most people. A lot can change in 7 months.

simuvac
10-30-2007, 11:18 PM
From Zogby (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1379), it says that, 52% of Americans would "support a U.S. military strike to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon." You can almost hear the echoes from PREVENT IRAN FROM BUILDING A NUCLEAR WEAPON weapon weapon

I imagine the question was something like, "Would you support a U.S. military strike to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon?"


The question asks people to respond to a hypothetical that has nothing to do with the actual situation. Iran is not building a nuclear weapon. Further, what gives other countries the right to tell Iran not to build a nuke? America has 12,000 nukes. India, Pakistan, Israel, etc. have nukes. Why would it be beyond the pale for Iran to seek a nuke?

Also, the form of the hypothetical makes it almost impossible to say no. Why not ask people if they would shoot an intruder before he raped their mom?

PhilosophyGenius
10-31-2007, 07:12 PM
Obama himself said that he would strike Iran if need be. As far as "Hillary's position matches most Americans", I think that's still up for debate.

I bet if the poll asked, "Do you want to go to war with Iran?", the answer would be NO.


Unfortunatley most American's don't realize that bombing Iran would lead to war. People seem to think that Iran would just get bombed like what Israel did to Iraq and then that would be that, and Iran would say sorry after feeling America's might.

As for Hillary, she looked bad last night at the debate when everyone ganged up on her.



Iran is not building a nuclear weapon. Further, what gives other countries the right to tell Iran not to build a nuke? America has 12,000 nukes. India, Pakistan, Israel, etc. have nukes. Why would it be beyond the pale for Iran to seek a nuke?



It's cuz the republicans made it a hot buttun issue and has got everyone brain washed.

AuGmENTor
10-31-2007, 08:20 PM
Very insightful PG. I do agree with those that you made, despite an over all disagreement with your DEM/REP views.

PhilosophyGenius
11-01-2007, 12:45 AM
Check the username.

Holla