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AuGmENTor
09-05-2007, 10:40 AM
'Massive' Terror Plot Foiled In Germany

Updated: 14:46, Wednesday September 05, 2007

<H2>German authorities have said three terror suspects planned "massive" attacks on an airport and US military base which could have been bigger than the London and Madrid bombings.

</H2>http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1582075.jpg Police escort suspect from court

German Federal Prosecutor Monika Harms said the three had procured 700kg of hydrogen peroxide for making explosives.

"This is a good day for security in Germany," she said.

The head of Germany's Federal Crime Office, Joerg Ziercke, told a news conference the hydrogen peroxide could have been mixed with other substances to produce bombs more powerful than those used in London and Madrid.

Germany's defence minister Franz Josef Jung said the plot posed "an imminent threat".

Reports claimed Frankfurt's international airport and the American base in Ramstein were among the targets.

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The US National Security Council Spokesman said President Bush had been briefed on the arrests.

"He's pleased a potential attack was thwarted and appreciates the work of the German authorities and the co-operation by international law enforcement," Gordon Johndroe said.

Prosecutors said the suspects had trained at camps in Pakistan run by the Islamic Jihad Union and formed a German cell of the group.

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1581938.jpg Hydrogen peroxide seized by police

The suspects, two Germans aged 22 and 28 who converted to Islam and a 29-year-old Turk, first came to the attention of authorities when they were caught observing a US military facility in Hanau, near Frankfurt, at the end of last year.

The suspects appeared before judges at the Federal Court of Justice in Karlsruhe after being arrested yesterday.

Germany has been on high alert for terrorism since the city of Hamburg was used as a base for planning the September 11 attacks.

In April, the US embassy in Berlin announced it was boosting security at diplomatic and military facilities in Germany because of an increased threat.

Germany, which did not send troops to Iraq, has largely been spared atrocities like the Tube and train bombings in London and Madrid.

However, its involvement in the attempt to stabilise Afghanistan against Islamic insurgents has led to fears it may be targeted.

AuGmENTor
09-05-2007, 10:41 AM
Notice how they trained in Pakistan? Don't we PAY Pakistan a ton of money to thwart these things?

Chana3812
09-05-2007, 02:00 PM
They won't be able to do much with that hydrogen peroxide .... except maybe bleach out some hair. 700kg is not that much !!

me thinks another terror hoax is in the works

AuGmENTor
09-05-2007, 02:10 PM
And since when do we WEIGH liquids? I thought it was a liquid measure. How many liters (or gallons) is that?

AuGmENTor
09-05-2007, 02:13 PM
This was the best answer I got...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=750kg%2Fgallon

simuvac
09-05-2007, 03:41 PM
They won't be able to do much with that hydrogen peroxide .... except maybe bleach out some hair.

Is this a new breed of metrosexual terrorists?

"Ah! They've highlighted my hair! I feel uncomfortable with this uncharacteristic flair! Damn you, terrorists!"

simuvac
09-05-2007, 03:48 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/11/news/liquid.php

"The most common peroxide explosive is triacetone triperoxide, or TATP, which is made from two liquids: acetone, the primary ingredient of most nail polish removers, and hydrogen peroxide, commonly used as an antiseptic when diluted. TATP can be used as a detonator or a primary explosive.TATP itself is a white powder made up of crystals that form when acetone and hydrogen peroxide are mixed together, usually with a catalyst added to speed the chemical reactions. But there is no need to wait for the crystals. Acetone and peroxide is "an exceedingly reactive mixture" that can be easily detonated by an electrical spark, said Neal Langerman, president of Advanced Chemical Safety, a consulting company in San Diego.

Acetone is easy to obtain, hydrogen peroxide somewhat harder. The hydrogen peroxide solution sold in pharmacies is too diluted, only 3 percent concentration, to be used in an explosive. Stronger hydrogen peroxide of 30 percent can be ordered from chemical supply companies, but concentrations strong enough to generate a powerful explosion, about 70 percent, are not readily available, Langerman said.

But acetone mixed with a 30 percent peroxide solution could still set off a fire that might burn through the aluminum skin of an airliner and cause it to crash, Langerman said.

Homeland Security has been moving ahead with the installation of one proven technology, so-called puffer machines, which blow a small amount of air on passengers to look for traces of explosives. To date, the machines have been installed at about 30 airports around the United States, including in New York and Washington.

But these devices may not sound an alarm if a terrorist has been extremely careful in preparing the liquid explosive, and in cleaning away all traces.

And once on board, mixing the explosives would be "as easy as mixing a gin and tonic, if you have the right stuff," said Paul Worsey, an explosives expert and professor of engineering at the University of Missouri at Rolla.

Most liquid explosives would require a detonator, but a music player or other hand-held passenger gadget has sufficient electrical energy to do that, experts say."

simuvac
09-05-2007, 03:51 PM
If you want to know how to make one:

http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucking_boom/162155.html

Hello, DHS! Welcome to YBBS.com!

AuGmENTor
09-05-2007, 04:05 PM
Who is DHS? Fucked up shit. A person could build a bomb offa that site...

simuvac
09-05-2007, 05:02 PM
Who is DHS?

Department of Homeland Security.

No doubt that last post triggered somebody's web crawler.

AuGmENTor
09-05-2007, 05:58 PM
As long as none of us are actually building bombs.... I guess they could just detain you without trial, AND without charging you, just for LOOKING at those site. You would be deemed an enemy combatant.

Eckolaker
09-05-2007, 07:23 PM
A person could easily make bombs from many things. Including finding detailed instructions long before the internet existed.

Anarchist Cookbook, Jolly Roger Cook Book, Etc.

/wave Mr. Chertoff

AuGmENTor
09-05-2007, 09:30 PM
Ummmm. You are telling ME this? I could be Ted Kazinskis little brother (if I knew how he spelled his name that is.) I know all sorts of awful things about IED's and boobytraps. Funny, I have never caught a booby though.

krsjuan87
09-05-2007, 10:42 PM
i caught my own boobies around fifth grade and cant get rid of em.....stupid ass he-hooters

thumper
09-05-2007, 11:31 PM
muslimz be blastin