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911=inside job
04-28-2005, 07:00 PM
i think i have found a good bb to talk about 911....http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/randirhodes/messageboards/index.php?showforum=36

its the rany rhodes show bb.. you know, form air america????
i just found it but it looks like there is some good peepz there...

im going to sign up....

911=inside job
04-28-2005, 07:02 PM
i like this thread... i have never hear that a b-25 hit the empire state building... have any of you???

Gold9472
04-28-2005, 07:03 PM
You forgot EmceeSoze, Dazinith, JustSomeRandomGuy, Casey, Sandy, and a bunch of other people here who like to talk about 9/11...

somebigguy
04-28-2005, 07:16 PM
i think i have found a good bb to talk about 911....http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/randirhodes/messageboards/index.php?showforum=36

its the rany rhodes show bb.. you know, form air america????
i just found it but it looks like there is some good peepz there...

im going to sign up....
Thanks Inside, I'll check it out...

911=inside job
04-28-2005, 07:34 PM
i was just telling my main buds... i knew you would spread the news...

i like some of these people on here so far... smart fuckers...

somebigguy
04-28-2005, 07:42 PM
I'm just reading some of the posts over there, quite a pile of idiots I must say, but a couple of Truthers as well. Actually, it kinda looks like the truthers are outnumbering the idiots, kinda nice...

911=inside job
04-28-2005, 07:47 PM
The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11
For those who buy the story, the argument for coincidence.
Happy coincidenting!
That intelligence agencies, politicians and terrorists have conducted criminal business together is well established, but BCCI and Iran/Contra were a long time ago, so there’s no need to rehash all that.
That Jonathan Bush’s Riggs Bank has been found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a record setting $25 million is embarrassing, surely, but to draw sinister conclusions is foolish.
That Marvin Bush sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines means nothing.
That George Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama’s brother Salem and Osama’s brother-in-law and al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz is just a one-in-a-million fluke.
That Osama bin Laden is known to have been an asset of US foreign policy in no way implies he still is. That al Qaeda was active in Kosovo on the same side as NATO merely demonstrates that nothing is black and white.
The claims of Michael Springman, State Department veteran of the Jeddah visa bureau, that the CIA ran the office and issued visas to al Qaeda members to receive training in the United States, are merely sour grapes because he was fired for making such wild accusations.
That so many in the Bush White House had expressed the need for a "new Pearl Harbor" before their militarist ambitions could be fulfilled means nothing more than being in the right place at the right time.
That in May of 2001, Dick Cheney took upon himself the job of co-ordinating a response to domestic terror attacks even as he was crafting the administration’s energy policy, circumventing the established infrastructure and ignoring the recommendations of the Hart-Rudman report, merely shows the VP to be a “can do” sort of guy.
That the standing order for shooting down hijacked aircraft was altered on June 1, 2001, taking discretion away from field commanders and placing it solely in the hands of the Secretary of Defense, is simply poor planning and unfortunate timing. Fortunately the error has been corrected, since the order was reversed shortly after 9/11.
That Dave Frasca of the FBI’s Radical Fundamentalist Unit received a promotion after quashing multiple, urgent requests for investigations into al Qaeda assets training at flight schools in the summer of 2001 does appear odd, but I’m sure there must have been a good reason for it.
That over the summer of 2001 Washington received many urgent, senior-level warnings from foreign intelligence agencies of impending terror attacks using hijacked aircraft and did nothing, demonstrates the pressing need for a new Intelligence Czar.
That former lead counsel for the House David Schippers says he’d taken to John Ashcroft’s office specific warnings he’d learned from FBI agents in New York of an impending attack - even naming the proposed dates, names of the hijackers and the targets - and that the investigations had been stymied and the agents threatened, proves nothing but David Schipper’s need for attention.
That George Bush had plans to invade Afghanistan on his desk before 9/11 demonstrates only the value of being prepared.
The suggestion that securing a pipeline across Afghanistan figured into the White House’s calculations is as ludicrous as the assertion that oil played a part in determining war in Iraq.
That Afghanistan is once again the world’s principal heroin producer is an unfortunate reality, but to claim the CIA is still actively involved in the narcotics trade is to presume bad faith on the part of the agency.
Mahmood Ahmed, chief of Pakistan’s ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn’t read anything about it in the official report.^ (This is the key that unlocks EVERYTHING)
George HW Bush and Dick Cheney spent the evening of September 10 in the Oval Office, it’s true, but they were just old colleagues catching up.
That FEMA arrived in New York on Sept 10 to prepare for a scheduled biowarfare drill is a lucky twist of fate.
Newsweek’s report that senior Pentagon officials cancelled flights on Sept 10 for the following day on account of security concerns is only newsworthy because of what happened the following morning.
That Mohamed Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell Air Force Base, that Abdulaziz Alomari attended Brooks Air Force Base Aerospace Medical School, that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey merely shows it’s a small world, after all.
That Mohammed Atta dressed like a Mafioso, had a stripper girlfriend, smuggled drugs, was already a licensed pilot when he entered the US, enjoyed pork chops, drank to excess and did cocaine, was closer to Europeans than Arabs in Florida, and included the names of defence contractors on his email list, proves how dangerous the radical fundamentalist Muslim can be.
That 43 lbs of heroin was found on board the Lear Jet owned by Wally Hilliard, the owner of Atta’s flight school, just three weeks after Atta enrolled - the biggest seizure ever in Central Florida - was just one of those things.
That Hilliard’s plane had made 30-round trips to Venezuela with the same passengers who always paid cash, that the plane had been supplied by a pair of drug smugglers who had also outfitted CIA drug runner Barry Seal, and that 9/11 commissioner Richard ben-Veniste had been Seal’s attorney before Seal’s murder, shows nothing but the lengths to which conspiracists will go to draw sinister conclusions.
Reports of insider trading on 9/11 are false, because the SEC investigated and found only respectable investors who will remain nameless involved, and no terrorists, so any profit-taking was merely coincidental.
That Hani Hanjour, the pilot of Flight 77, was so incompetent he could not fly a Cessna in August, but in September managed to fly a 767 at excessive speed into a spiraling, 270-degree descent and a level impact of the first floor of the Pentagon, on the only side that was virtually empty and had been hardened to withstand a terrorist attack, merely demonstrates that people can do almost anything once they set their minds to it.
That Mohammed Atta left a uniform, a will, his driver's license and a video "how to fly planes" in his rental car at the airport means he had other things on his mind.
The very mention of Israelis with links to military-intelligence having been arrested on Sept 11 videotaping and celebrating the attacks, and of a warning of impending attacks delivered to the Israeli company Odigo two hours before the first plane hit, is the vilest kind of anti-Semitism and should not be dignified with a response. That the stories were also reported in the Israeli media is a sad display of self-hatred among certain elements of the Jewish Left.
That multiple military wargames and simulations were underway the morning of 9/11 - one simulating the crash of a plane into a building; another, a life-fly simulation of multiple hijackings - and took many interceptors away from the eastern seaboard and confused field commanders as to which was a real hijacked aircraft and which was a hoax, was a tragic coincidence, but no less a coincidence.
That the National Military Command Center ops director asked a newly-qualified substitute to stand his watch at 8:30 am on Sept. 11 is nothing more than bad timing.
That the black boxes were either never found or were unrecoverable was a first for these particular boxes, but there's a first time for everything.
That a recording made Sept 11 of air traffic controllers’ detailing the events of the day, was destroyed by an FAA official who crushed it in his hand, cut the tape into little pieces and dropped them in different trash cans around the building, is just one of those things.
That the FBI knew precisely which Florida flight schools to descend upon hours after the attacks should make every American safer to know their federal agents are on the ball.
To insinuate evil motive from the mercy flights of bin Laden family members and Saudi royals after 9/11 shows the sickness of the conspiratorial mindset.
Le Figaro’s report in October 2001, known to have originated with French intelligence, that two CIA agents met Osama bin Laden in a Dubai hospital in July 2001, proves again the perfidy of the French.
That the tape in which bin Laden claims responsibility for the attacks was released by the State Department after having been found providentially by US forces in Afghanistan, and depicts a fattened Osama with a broader face and a flatter nose, proves Osama masterminded 9/11.
That the White House went on Cipro September 11 shows the foresightedness of America’s emergency response.
That the anthrax was mailed to perceived liberal media and the Democratic leadership demonstrates only the perversity of the terrorist psyche.
That the anthrax attacks appeared to silence opponents of the Patriot Act only shows that appearances can be deceiving.
That the Ames-strain anthrax was found to have originated at Fort Detrick, and was beyond the capability of all but a few labs to refine, underscores the importance of allowing the investigation to continue without the distraction of absurd conspiracy theories.
Sibel Edmonds is an attention-seeking nutcase. And since John Ashcroft has gagged her and classified her public testimony, we should speak no more of her.
But most of all, remember: there are no secrets, governments would never accept civilian casualties for geostrategic gain, and conspiracies are for the weak-minded and gullible.

911=inside job
04-28-2005, 07:49 PM
dude , dan R kicks ass!!!!! his shit is right on point....

911=inside job
04-28-2005, 07:52 PM
i think this all the time... from dan R:It's strange how even people who are convinced that this administration is lying to them left right and center still can't wrap their minds around the possibility that they did so from the get-go. This really gives me pause sometimes.


you guys do know this is a left wing bb right???

911=inside job
04-28-2005, 08:07 PM
hey sbg.. my name over there is 3ripmin... just so you know.

princesskittypoo
04-28-2005, 08:16 PM
i was just telling my main buds... i knew you would spread the news...

i like some of these people on here so far... smart fuckers...
I hope i'm a smart fucker.

somebigguy
04-28-2005, 08:17 PM
hey sbg.. my name over there is 3ripmin... just so you know.
Hey Inside, I'm somebigguy over there (surprise surprise).

I like this statement:

That the standing order for shooting down hijacked aircraft was altered on June 1, 2001, taking discretion away from field commanders and placing it solely in the hands of the Secretary of Defense, is simply poor planning and unfortunate timing. Fortunately the error has been corrected, since the order was reversed shortly after 9/11.

911=inside job
04-28-2005, 08:30 PM
I hope i'm a smart fucker.
sorry pkp i was talking about people at this new bb...

you have to get onboard the 911 train for me to call you a smart fucker... lol

Gold9472
04-28-2005, 11:35 PM
sorry pkp i was talking about people at this new bb...

you have to get onboard the 911 train for me to call you a smart fucker... lol

So you're either with us, or against us... tsk tsk tsk...

dz
04-28-2005, 11:55 PM
ive tried contacting randi a couple of times.. she talked a good bit about 9/11 before she went on surgery leave.. she knows that there are some viable questions surrounding 9/11, and i have heard her go off about it.. unfortunately i have never heard back from her, but hopefully she appreciated the kind comments.

princesskittypoo
04-29-2005, 12:16 AM
sorry pkp i was talking about people at this new bb...

you have to get onboard the 911 train for me to call you a smart fucker... lol
I'm on the 911 train just on this bb. :( please let me be a smart fucker for once! :)

911=inside job
04-29-2005, 01:02 AM
I'm on the 911 train just on this bb. :( please let me be a smart fucker for once! :)
ok... :)

911=inside job
04-29-2005, 01:05 AM
ive tried contacting randi a couple of times.. she talked a good bit about 9/11 before she went on surgery leave.. she knows that there are some viable questions surrounding 9/11, and i have heard her go off about it.. unfortunately i have never heard back from her, but hopefully she appreciated the kind comments.
i have heard her say some things that lead me to believe she know all about 911... im scared she cant say anything or is too scared to say anything... they can shut people up pretty easy...

dz
04-29-2005, 10:37 PM
i have heard her say some things that lead me to believe she know all about 911... im scared she cant say anything or is too scared to say anything... they can shut people up pretty easy...

any chance you have a login for her forum? i wanted to post about griffin's speach tommorrow on cspan and perhaps a plug for my site, but i gotta wait to get approved.. anyone able to post comments on her forum?

Gold9472
04-29-2005, 10:38 PM
I'm 9/11 Truther...

princesskittypoo
04-29-2005, 10:57 PM
I'm 9/11 Truther...
and he's my friend :)

911=inside job
04-29-2005, 11:17 PM
any chance you have a login for her forum? i wanted to post about griffin's speach tommorrow on cspan and perhaps a plug for my site, but i gotta wait to get approved.. anyone able to post comments on her forum?
im waiting too.. what the hell is taking them so long...

when did you sign up?? i did at about 5:00pm yesterday...

dz
04-30-2005, 12:03 AM
just an hour or two ago..

somebigguy
04-30-2005, 07:36 AM
Well, the board is down now. I signed up that night and haven't been able to post yet...