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werther
02-13-2007, 11:05 PM
I saw this video which was on the digg site. (not much for 9-11 truth on Digg)
video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDOuvCDuB2w)

in it some guy is questioning a truther regarding the thermite 'involved' in the wtc collapse. The truther asks something like (where did all the sulferization of the steel come from? And the guy replies that the dry wall was sulfur based. Any truth to this? At least I think that's what he says.

MrDark71
02-15-2007, 02:18 PM
CaSO4-2(H2O), Hydrated Calcium Sulfate or gypsum is a soft white mineral that is found in large beds formed by the evaporation of seawater. Gypsum is the main ingredient in drywall. Thusly sulphur would be present. It's still just fodder....drywall did not make the building collapse.

AuGmENTor
02-15-2007, 05:58 PM
Nah man, what they are saying is that the steel had traces of sulfur in it, which the truthers posit would be there in the presence of thermite, or thermate. What the debunkers are saying is that sulfur is present due to the fact that it is present in gypsum wallboard. I don't know one way or another, as this is all WAY out of my league. I have no problem admitting that.

MrDark71
02-16-2007, 09:21 AM
I'm just stating that drywall does have sulphur in it. Albeit most of which was spread out all over Manhattan but I can imagine it came in contact with hot steel. As far as what composition of sulhur was on the steel ask Controlled Demolition....they found out.

Christophera
02-17-2007, 04:59 AM
I saw this video which was on the digg site. (not much for 9-11 truth on Digg)
video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDOuvCDuB2w)

in it some guy is questioning a truther regarding the thermite 'involved' in the wtc collapse. The truther asks something like (where did all the sulferization of the steel come from? And the guy replies that the dry wall was sulfur based. Any truth to this? At least I think that's what he says.

They are both right, sort of.

The demo denier dude is Gravy from the JREF forum. He's right about the steel being torch cut. (I assume the below image is the image the older guy is showing) A big problem for the truth movement is that truthers are not experienced in construction. This does not mean that massive thermite was NOT used, it was, the truthers just don't know where. They're leadership has been manipulated perhaps.

That is not a thermite cut, it is a torch cut from salvage.

http://www.rense.com/general70/pic87932.jpg
MORE: http://algoxy.com/psych/whatis9-11disinfo-rense%3F.html

This is what happens in the absence of an authority for verifications. The non profits for 9-11 truth should be reasonably dealing with this, at least this kind of thing, but they are totally out of it when it comes to using reason.

I haven't found one yet that will comunicate with me in an accountable fashion.

So meantime the truthers are forced (not knowing better) to take garbage information out in the streets to get publically made fools of on youtube.

Wow, thanks non profits for 9-11 truth, hurry up and get some more DVD's out there.

werther
02-17-2007, 10:58 AM
Thanks you guys. As for the sulfur-drywall, I simply google searched it and found what Augie and MrDark said. I remember seeing those images of the steel being said to be cut by thermite and thinking 'how do they know they were not just cut during the clean-up?'.

Christophera
02-18-2007, 02:07 AM
The issue of thermite is a done deal. We do not need sulpher samples. Common sense says that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get that much molten metal in one place, so quick, without thermite.

What is sad is that I spoke to Steven Jones on the phone last winter and explained that he was right about the cutting charges that cut these columns. Ground zero was littered with these, uniformly a little shorter than 40 feet, not bent or snapped for the most part.

http://www.parrhesia.com/wtc/wtc066.jpg

Those were delivered in 40 foot sections and then 100% butt welded to form a continous column, not inside the core but surrounding the core. You can see the iron oxide near the cut which has squezed out of the steel from the extreme heat. Only high explosives can do that and they have to be optimally contained to do it. That is way beyond what a cutting charge can do under those conditions. A cutting charge that can cut that thickness would be about 10 inchs tall probably. How is that going to be installed?

If there were 47, 1300 core columns (there were not) it would require about 1300 cuts to get rid of them and create free fall or get the columns to disappear from the 9-11 images. The supposed steel core columns are never seen in the 9-11 images.

What did exist were 24 interior box columns that surrounded the steel reinforced cast concrete core which was poured inside the core area using the interior box columns to support the outer forms.

http://algoxy.com/psych/images/interiorboxcolumnsarrow.jpg

I explained to Jones that every 3rd floor had a special cutting charge built into the floor (http://algoxy.com/psych/images/steelbeamcuttingfloors.gif)

Christophera
02-18-2007, 02:12 AM
Hmmm, ....... I have to complete this post with a second.

that was encapsulated in concrete which focused the C4 sandwiched between tempered steel plates into a cutting plane of high pressure gasses that produced the cuts seen above.

The detail about the tempered steel plates that fit around the columns was a part of the 1990 doumentary I viewed called "The Construction of the Twin Towers."

The result is that my 3 submissions for membership to the scholars for truth are not answered.

Check my site.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html

beltman713
02-18-2007, 10:18 AM
I think Steven Jones said in the documentary, 911 Birth Of Treason, that there could be non-thermite explanations for the sulfur traces found in the 911 dust, but there could be no other explanation for the traces of zinc oxide found in the dust but thermite/thermate.

Correct me if I'm wrong.