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Dble T
08-14-2006, 03:45 PM
This guy is a brother-in-law of a very good friend of mine. He served in the Army and tried to get in as a Ranger but never quite made it. However, in the years of training with them he made quite a few friends and I would like to share with you what he is telling my good friend (his brother-in-law). It doesn't show up in the email conversation below but this email started after I wrote to him that I believed something big is going to happen within the next sixty days. Don't want to worry anybody but if the Rangers think something big is going to happen then well, that is probably worth listening to.

Dble T

----- Original Message -----
From: Good Friend
To: Dble T
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Cave Living
I haven't spoken with him directly, so this is double hearsay, but the word is many of his buddies are preparing for something big--in the belief it is imminently near.

Whatever it is, it has got him spooked. He has bought filters to filter water, gas masks, surgical masks, blankets, batteries and stuff to make his own bullets and shells. He is pestering Alley to find out whether we have stocked up yet.

Alley is now spooked enough from talking to him that she wants to invest in solar panels for our house as well as other equipment so that we can drink from our well.

But, unless we are getting nuked or dirty bombs are let loose, I can't see rural and suburban areas being exposed to a high risk. So, I am not sure what to make of this and I am not quite ready abandon home and head for the hills.


On 8/14/06, Dble T wrote:
What are his Ranger buddies saying exactly, or inexactly for that matter?


----- Original Message -----
From: Good Friend
To: Dble T

Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Cave Living


You are not alone in thinking that there will be a big event in the next 60 days or so.

He is convinced, partially from the feedback he is getting from his Ranger buddies, that something big is going to happen soon.

So, he has started to horde canned goods, seeds, water and artillery. In addition he is scoping out caves to hunker down in while the shit is underway--caves always have water, are cool in the summer and relatively warm in the winter.

Chana3812
08-14-2006, 04:53 PM
damn - that is scary shit :(

PhilosophyGenius
08-14-2006, 05:16 PM
Not sure why he needs to store canned foods and artillery. Thanks for sharing though.

:notetosel

AuGmENTor
08-14-2006, 05:24 PM
Not sure why he needs to store canned foods and artillery. Thanks for sharing though.

:notetosel
So he can eat, DUH. I'm afraid I may have done a bit too little a bit too late. I have thousands of rounds of ammo, from buying it on sale over the years. Not much in the way of food, but with ammo, it should balance out...;) I have all sorts of survival stuff. But who wants to live in the woods? And I have a question. If this causes an economic collapse, do you get evicted? I mean, if EVERYONE is broke, do you still have to pay rent?

beltman713
08-14-2006, 05:25 PM
The thing is, if the Democrats get control of the senate and house, in November, the Bush administration knows that they are finished. So I figure they will do something between, now and then, to prevent that from happening.

PhilosophyGenius
08-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Well, it aint gonna be a nuclear attack and the army wont be rounding people out of there homes.

AuGmENTor
08-14-2006, 05:59 PM
So then what? I will be the first to admit that I am just too plain old dumb to even guess whats coming next. I just know that I feel it. Magine how stupid we'll all feel if nothing at all happens.

werther
08-14-2006, 09:02 PM
I don't mean to belittle anybody but....
my girlfriends ex-boyfriend was/is a Ranger and he doesn't know shit!!

Now granted I am probably a littled biased given the situation but ummm
why would a Ranger be so informed?

edit: Moreover, I am not in the freaking army yet I feel that something is brewing along with most of the damn world. I too have been stocking up on food and water/ not bullets though but I think I will start.

AuGmENTor
08-14-2006, 09:20 PM
not bullets though but I think I will start.
Think arrows man. Bullets are nice, but a dead giveaway of position, and in the world that's coming, that may be a bad idea. Arrows are reusable, and silent. If you live in a state where crossbows are leagal, if you care about those things, I'd suggest one of those. (FYI with crossbows, they're called bolts, not arrows) They have a slower rate of fire, but no matter what happens this is not gonna go down ala Bruce Wilis. No American citizens are gonna be jumpin out of the bushes (no pun) pumping round after smoking round into the new world enemy forces. Try it and you'll die in seconds. This will be more like the 1st American Revolution. Hiding and defending. You may still have time to take an archery lesson or two (wink wink). I really hope all this seems silly this time next year, and that we're not all shitting in a ditch whispering, "Remember the internet, and warm showers?" No one ever answered my question about the rent thing....

werther
08-14-2006, 09:30 PM
-no doubt, hopefully this shit is hysterical. Better be safe than sorry, I was never much of a outdoorsy survival guy so I just ordered this book (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0811729850/002-2651300-2316064?v=glance&n=283155) . If you have any other suggestions speak up brother!

AuGmENTor
08-14-2006, 10:58 PM
Think water. Not bottled. Yeah have some on hand, but if you hadda carry the weight of what you'd need for even two people, sheeesh. Have a truck handy. Purification via chemical/filter. They make water bladders that are 5 gals light and foldable. You get whichever your gonna use and stock the water in the bladder. These kits go from 60$ and up. You can google it and you'll find a way to do it with household bleach, but only as a last resort. You can live 70 days w/o food if you have water. But they ain't gonna be happy days if you catch my drift. This is gross, but if it comes down to real survival, don't bother with trying to hunt birds, or other animals. Bugs are alot more filling and nutritious oz per oz. If you're lucky enough to have a stock of food and a way to trsnsport it, have a good way to get it up a tree. Bears like to eat also, and as a rule, do not want to eat you. Unless of course, you and your food are right next to each other. Even before all this shit started happening I have always made it a point to have the following on the truck, in the car. 50' of decent rope. (It doesn't have to be the monster big stump pulling rope, just general purpose nylon) First aid kit. Make your own, not one of those walmart specials, you ain't fixin shit with that. And of course the obvious. Flashlight (suggest you get either the wind up or shake kind, you can't haul enough batteries to keep you going long). Mine has a cell phone charger adapter, so I can wind up my phone if needs be. (When I'm not dropping that fucker in the pool, that is) Decent knife or two. I suggest two and one of them should be a gerber or leatherman, absolutely invaluble* in the field. Grab a package of lighters, like 6 of them, and a bunch of matches. You can find ways to light fire without them, but why, the weight ratio is nothing, the aggravation ratio is maddening. Trust me on this one. Bug repelent. A luxury, I know, but worth it in the long run. This list goes on and on, and it sounds like alot. All of these things fit in two small nylon bags that are always in the car/truck. All of the other stuff fits in two 30 gal plastic tubs. I'll give you the gist even though I'm starting to feel silly listing all of this. Collapsable shovel, nylon tarps, nylon tie wraps, heavy duty plastic bags, dome tent (pick appropriate size for you) camp saw, lanterns (although I suggest avoiding appliances requiring gas/oil as you don't know availability of replacement) a decent hatchet, sharpening stone, water purification kit, 10 gal worth of water bladders ( I know I listed them already) More matches. Very basic aluminum pots and pans (maybe 4 at most. 1 at least 2 gal to boil water in.) And then all my weaponry, that I'm not gonna get into right now. I'll add it and the rest of the stuff as it occurs to me. Or when I go through my tubs. I don't know why, but for as long as I can remember, I've always had this stuff. My kids and I camp when we get the chance, but rarely touch any of that stuff. I'm always takin stuff out and replacing it with what I consider better, and then add the other stuff to the camping supplies. I'll start another thread that has all sort of goodies of how to wash clothes with no soap and the like. Laugh if you will scoffers, but I know where I'll be when the shit hits the fan. My parents own property in the adirondak state park (well, right at the edge) and if I can get there, I'll be pretty ok. Always wanted to be a hermit anyway.

Chana3812
08-17-2006, 07:37 PM
OFF THE GRID, MAN

GOTTA GET OFF THE GRID TO SURVIVE

Tonya
08-17-2006, 08:50 PM
If it weren't for the pshycho rapist tag line I'd want to seek you out in times of trouble! You definately have your shit together.

It is times like these I wish I weren't by myself. I do have a gun and a flaslight, other than that i am fucked!

I seriously need even the basic shit to pack in my car. There isn't anyway I would survive a catastrophe by myself so I just have to make sure I have a tank full at all times and emergency stuff in my car so I can go either to my friend's place suth of me or my mom's north of me.

My friend--ex-boyfriend, is a health administrator for a county nearby and he has had all kinds of training in bio-terrorism and other homeland security stuff. He is a hunter, is excellent with weapons including archery and knows his survival shit. He doesn't buy into any of my politics ---we are totally not a match, but we are still friendly toward each other and respect each other. Anyway, my point is that he is 45 min away and if shit really were to hit the fan, he would protect me. I am grateful for that.
My mom & stepdad are total "Christian Right Wingers" (I am Christian but obviously not right wing) and prepared way back with the Y2K scare. My stepdad hunts too and they have so much food it is crazy---and a garden too. Anyway, they live about 1hr 30 min north. So, I have places to go if need be. Of course, none of them are awake to the BS this admin. is pulling and I think they would buy right into whatever this admin. asked them to do in the times of trouble and severe fear. I in the meantime would most definately be suspicious of everything.

After reading the email about the Ranger's fears I called two Rangers I know, my uncle and a friend that serves now in Korea. I left voicemails for both of them. I hope to hear what they have to say and I will share it here with you guys.

You know what. This is pretty fucking bad that we have to be prepared to survive & fight against our own fucking government. It isn't even the gov., it is a small portion of the gov., an elite group that is fooling everyone. And here we are, not able to share this with everyone we know for fear of being labled crazy and not taked seriously. And if we did tell them of our fears and something happened they would just connect it back to terrorists, the terrorists that Bush & Blair tried to save us from. Yeah right! I wish people could wake up and see what is happening.

Sorry for any typos--not going back to reread this.

AuGmENTor
08-17-2006, 11:21 PM
Yeah, I'm about due to make my debut on Americas Most Wanted. C'mon, I stole that tag line from t-shirt hell. It used to be, "courage is not the absense of fear, it is action in spite of fear." Kinda corny, I know. So I changed it to appeal to the masses, and get a laugh. (As well as the occasional shudder.)
I used to jike that I could be dropped of in the woods with a pocket knife and a book of matches for a week, with no problem. My sons still ask me if it's true. Now I tell them no, so they don't try it themselves. I don't WANT to live like that. But if it came down to it, laying down and dying isn't really an option for me. Plus I have the slaves, I mean kids to do alot of the grunt work, now that I'm getting old and infirm.
And the whole grid thing Chana... I'm about as off it as you can get. The government might even think I'm dead. I'm too lazy to go into specifics, but I'll start a thread on how to get off of that little mess in a bit. And as far as this goes:
This is pretty fucking bad that we have to be prepared to survive & fight against our own fucking government .
Yes it IS sad. But what would be even MORE sad would be all of you stuck in a FEMA camp somewhere. They rely on the fact that 9 out of 10 of us would HAVE to go to a camp, simply because we would be incapable of surviving without basic social services and utilities. That's why I taught my kids to LOVE camping. I don't think they'd find it fun uf they HAD to do it for a few months, but that's what COULD happen. Not saying it will, but it could. You can find all sorts of survival shit right here on the net. Alot of it is really cool.

AuGmENTor
10-04-2006, 10:39 PM
Heh, just read that over. Wow, I really am kinda nuts. I just picked up a crank up radio. No batteries. Wind for 2 mins and you get an hour play time. Thing is fuckin awsome. 50$ @ Lowes. Kinda good to know whats goin on, so you know when it's OK to come back, (if ever). Funny, I was gettin some ammo last week, and decided to weigh the crate I keep it in. Suddenly a compound bow is starting to seem like a better idea (135 lbs. in case anyone was wondering) I'll lug it if I have to, but arrows are recycleable, and if you had to, you could make new ones. If I hadda leave the ammo, I'd just keep the aught6 and Deagle. I have a bow, but I don't stay as current as I do with the firearms. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes though. You're not giving away your position if you want rabbit for dinner. Guess there's a bit too much cowboy in me, I wont let the guns go...

AndrewLoweWatson
10-08-2006, 07:45 AM
There have been rather a lot of these warnings of imminent doom over the past year or so. So far we're still in one piece.
Mind you, it only has to have me saying nothing will happen for Fate to pay me back... so my advice is - head for the hills and take a good book or two. Remember there's no TV in caves.

AuGmENTor
09-23-2007, 11:05 PM
Still NOTHING!!!!

dMole
09-24-2007, 03:37 AM
Suddenly a compound bow is starting to seem like a better idea (135 lbs. in case anyone was wondering) I'll lug it if I have to, but arrows are recycleable, and if you had to, you could make new ones. If I hadda leave the ammo, I'd just keep the aught6 and Deagle. I have a bow, but I don't stay as current as I do with the firearms. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes though. You're not giving away your position if you want rabbit for dinner. Guess there's a bit too much cowboy in me, I wont let the guns go...

Hey AuG and Happy year-short-of-40 B-day!

I grew up on a ranch in the Rocky Mtns., wore my 3rd pellet gun before age 6, got my first firearm for my 8th b-day, and my first shotgun at 14.

I've recently quit an engineering job "in the city" and have interviewed for a career job "out in the hills" in order to live somewhere more sustainable. 22 Long Rifle is your best bet for survival- more accurate and longer range than a bow, and you can buy several THOUSAND rounds for $100 or so. Also very quiet, and you can "muffle" things on certain .22s with a polyethylene soda bottle and some electrical tape if you don't mind breaking ATF rules and blocking your line-of-sight (but it is HIGHLY effective for a few rounds or so). I like the 9mm carbines for quiet (like the Marlin or $Colt$) or .223 for economy, but our ranges are considerably longer out West. My USMC nephew out-shot all 3 of his Master Gunnery Sgt. instructors at Camp Pendleton, and they gave him considerable brain-damage until they found out he was from "Utaaaw"- I guess they've seen that before.

I'd lay stone-cold Benjamins that you and I are already on the FEMA "red list", but I'll also lay Benjamins that the "4-corners" area of UT/AZ/NM/CO won't be an easy conquest (I expect N/B/C and "non"-lethals to be on the battle plan to "tame" us). One thing, every fall, approx. 250,000 licensed hunters in Utah take centerfire rifles to "the hills" for the Mule deer hunt. How many troops are in Iraq and Blackwater? This number also doesn't include ID, MT, WY, AZ, or CO...

I think you said you went to Iraq in '91 and got exposed to all that Depleted? Uranium. I'm assuming this was military-related from your writing style- I'd like to compare notes with my nephew's Afghanistan-Taliban-Cuba stuff if you want to PM me. I've also got a LOT of off-grid energy info if you're interested.

You and your sons should check out the original 1911 Boy Scout Handbook- shows how to make your own bow and set snares. Tom Brown's books are pretty great (with a lot of Amazon disinfo reviews for some reason), and Larry Dean Olsen's books are also good (but have been accused of being Southwestern US specific- he's a local Utah boy like me).

Blowguns aren't a bad weapon either- I've killed 5-15 lb. carp with the good shots and some patience. Also much quieter than a bow. You can learn a lot from "savages"...

Peace, as long as they let us...
dMole

P.S. Yes, I've actually ridden a bull, and raced dirt bikes, and been skydiving, and certified scuba diving, and...

AuGmENTor
09-24-2007, 07:36 AM
Thanks for the bday wishes... If this is what almost 40 feels like, I will almost assuredly be dead before 50! BLECH.

Nothing as romantic as a ranch in the Rockies for me... It was a farm in upstate NY here. We had no shower in my home until I was 13 and installed one. Until that point it was a claw foot tub. I remember our water pump failing when I was like 8, and not having running water indoors for a few weeks. Boiling water on a woodstove to take a bath is something everyone should have to do.
At eight years old, I was learning how to trap small game and selling the pelts. 30 years ago you could get 40 bux for a decent racoon pelt, wich was a kings ransom. Tanning is a gross thing to do, believe you me. I was the Mengele of New Windsor as faras neighborhood cats went. Really lucky I didn't catch more dogs. I grew into making deadfalls and snares and all manner of home made traps.

22LR: I have 2. A savage tube feed, and a remington magazine feed. The remmy is my prefrence, and yeah, cartridges number in the HIGH thousands. The silencer is a good idea, but I prefer the pvc, steel wool method (lower profile that still allows the scope).
The combined weight of all of my firearms and ammo is more than I am prepared to lug overland to the property upstate,so I have an anorexic list of bare essentials that is simply the 30.06 (illegally altered to house 20 rounds) the remmy 22 and the desert eagle. But I think if it comes to it I will not be using them to hunt as I said before.

Interesting about all the registered hunters. I don't bother, as this is America, and I don't need papers to take game off of my own land. Those papers are just a trail leading to you and your cache of weapons.

I am VERY interested in anything you know about circumventing non-lethal technology. Back in my time, you could get around CS nerve gas with a damp towel and some vaseline. Now days they have microwave emmitters and audio disruptors and who knows what else.

Believe it or not, I HAVE the 1911 boyscout book! Given to me by my father. My boys did the boyscout thing until I realized what a bunch of politically correct cunts those people were. Jesus, the manual was soooo watered down! Not to mention the section of how to get your asshole cored out in three easy lessons!!!! Just kidding on the last, but you get the idea.
Never played with blowguns, as they seemed very "savage" to me. Perhaps I will learn to make one.

There are lots of posts in here about my wonderful Iraqi vacation. For the most part I try not to dwell on it cept for friday nights, wich is when I shapen my knife in the dark... naked and crying. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

Off the power grid? Nice, but I don't think I will have the resources available to be able to do it. My boys seem to think they are going to be able to power laptops and ps3's and alllll their creature comforts. I just let them think it. Would make an interesting read though... So if you're of a mind, post it!
This forum is pretty open, and you will find LOTS of threads that go WAYYYYY off topic. Plus Gold just left, wich sux, but he NEVER said anything in my time here about posting off topic.
blech, time to get ready to work for food.

dMole
09-24-2007, 08:09 PM
Hey Aug,

There is some good info on the Navy's own page about RF Hazards at:
http://www.safetycenter.navy.mil/acquisition/RFR/default.htm. Of course your trusty gas mask and "alternative" electromedicine might be handy in biological and chemical attacks. There's probably a reason the Taliban went down into those high-mountain caves in Afghanistan.

Dr. Nick Begich has done some excellent research on HAARP and NL technology. Most of the NL tech operates in the ELF band (down below 20 Hz, like the human nervous system) or microwave heat/crowd control (mostly classified and carefully pulse-modulated frequencies), but the MIL-STDs and patents give some good personnel safety hints- very dry reading though for most non-scientists. The South Park BM "brown note" is rumored to really exist too in the sub-sonic realm.

My university physics building was fully shielded (no FM radio reception in downtown Salt Lake City with dozens of radio stations), due to the superconducting magnets in use and the 2 million volt generator down in the basement- now that really messed up computers if you weren't prepared (EMP). I believe it was electrically grounded steel mesh in the brick walls, but there may have been some lead used too. You can learn a lot from experimenting with cell phone reception, too. I think there's more to the "no cell phone use on airplanes" that we've been told (especially in the 9/11 Truth sense). I'd use aluminum or steel window screen instead of fiberglass (with grounding wire if you lean toward the "paranoid?"), but we have a bad yellow jacket problem out West anyway in the summertime, and I've watched them chew through fiberglass screen in seconds. Aluminum screen might come in handy for that rainy day "muffler" project too.

The tin foil hat might not actually be such a bad idea, except nobody said it needed a big ground wire attached! Those aluminized mylar "survival" blankets can give good shielding when grounded too (your home's water pipes are about the best earth ground you will find). I've seen working ultrasonic welders and cleaners, RF heating, heating/cooling with sound, wave soldering, and various other non-contact "science fiction" devices operate. I find it amusing how people will ridicule the "tin foil conspiracy theorists" based on "common sense" when they know next to nothing about Faraday cage shielding, EM/RF radiation, and NLT tech. To offset or jam NLT, you'd need to know the exact frequencies, but a well placed shot to an RF transponder with a 50-cent bullet will likely knock out millions of dollars worth of NLT circuitry. Also those big, black power-cable looking things are likely big power supply cables, not to mention that generators are a very strategic target. HERF weapons often need a huge power input, something that Dr. Steven Jones pointed out in the DEW flame wars. This is not to say that some likely classified NL/HERF weapons could have low-power input with highly focused radiation of dangerous intensity to humans and animals. Dr. Allen Frey and Dr. Jose Delgado did some disturbing research way back in the 1960s, too. There have been many immoral and illegal actions shrouded under the cloak of "national SUCKurity" since 1947. Of course bringing back a Constitutional legitimate form of government is the best defense against tyranny.

Just a few of the unclassified "shadow" and NL patents are below- pat2pdf.org is a great research tool. The rumors about Soviet and "scalar" Tesla weapons aren't very reassuring either (woodpecker signal, Moscow embassy, etc.) Lt. Col Thomas Bearden, Maxwell's original work, Nikola Tesla, and Whittaker's 1903 quaternion math cover the theory pretty well for the scientifically minded.

Patent 3,951,134 - Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves

Patent 4,686,685 - Method And Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere, and/or Magnetosphere (HAARP)


Patent 4,717,343 - Method of Changing Person's Behavior

Patent 4,858,612 - Hearing Device

Patent 4,877,027 - Hearing System

Patent 5,123,899 - Method and System for Altering Consciousness

Patent 5,159,703 - Silent Subliminal Presentation System

Patent 5,270,800 - Subliminal Message Generator

Patent 5,507,291 - Method and an Associated Apparatus for Remotely Determining information as to Person's Emotional State

Patent 5,539,705 - Ultrasonic Speech Translator and Communications System

Patent 5,629,678 - Personal Tracking and Recovery System

Patent 5,760,692 - Intra-oral Tracking Device

Patent 5,878,155 - Method for verifying human identity during electronic sale transactions (Mark of the Beast) Read more about this patent here:

Patent 5,905,461 - Global Positioning Satellite Tracking Device

Patent 5,935,054 - Magnetic excitation of Sensory Resonances

Patent 5,952,600 - Engine Disabling Weapon

Patent 6,006,188 - Speech Signal Processing for Determining Psychological or Physiological Characteristics Using a Knowledge Base

Patent 6,011,991 - Communication system and method including brain wave analysis and/or use of brain activity

Patent 6,014,080 - Body Worn Active and Passive Tracking Device

Patent 6,017,302 - Subliminal Acoustic Manipulation of Nervous System

Patent 6,051,594 - Methods and Formulations for Modulating the Human Sexual Response

Patent 6,669,094 - Method of Embedding and Recovering Encoded Item Identification Information in an Emulsion by Means of Radiant Energy

dMole
09-24-2007, 08:22 PM
Hey again Aug,

Forgot to mention that I've had some-- umm-- "interesting" research results with moebius and caduceus wound coils, like knocking out TV reception very locally using low power square waves Higher voltage, higher power, and different frequencies could get very interesting. These are supposed to have a water, quartz, or conducting core inside the coil for "safety" but most scalar wave stuff is classified or very spotty info. I didn't get John Hutchinson effects, but his research is damnable interesting stuff (got his equipment confiscated by the US Govt. in Canada- how's that work with national sovereignty?).

AuGmENTor
09-24-2007, 08:59 PM
Shit, I just hada reply written, and it got lost in the shuffle. The long and short of it was, alot of what you just posted went right over my almost retarded nugget. When you get a chance, you could dumb some of that shit down for me. There is prolly little point though. I saw a program on the science channel lately that shoed a guy with a room full of military surplus equipment that was using this shit to burn holes in steel with not much heat. And levitating things around his shop like nothing at all. Looked like a real freak. Kinda like ozzy ozbournes older bother. Really cool. But he may have well been a magician!

AuGmENTor
09-24-2007, 09:37 PM
Holy shit dMOLE! that was some link you posted about radio waves and just how harmful they can be. I certainly hope you post some down to earth, easy to understand stuff ppl can do to protect against those things. Also: Are there any simple defenses against tazers? A company came out with some material that can line jackets and shit, but I was wondering about what normal ppl can do.

dMole
09-24-2007, 10:03 PM
If this was a taller, thin guy with stringy longinsh hair, I'm pretty sure you watched a show about John Hutchinson. He found a way to salvage tons of US Navy equipment that was built into the ships he was scrapping, and they let him keep what he could haul home (until his "experiments" got waaay strange and the US Govt. confiscated his whole warehouse up in Canada). I'd heard he was gathering some more odds & ends up in BC, but I've only seen a few videos on him and haven't met the guy personally. I would have described his appearance as part Alice Cooper, part NYC Mayor Ghouliani, but Ozzy's older brother fits pretty well too. The guy is both odd and brilliant, though.

He's pretty cryptic about his technology, but it mostly involves high voltage and Tesla & scalar wave coils, but I'm not sure exactly how he's "driving" them. Hutchinson and T. Henry Moray (another Utah local experimenting back in the 1930s) both worked on "radiant" energy minerals that pulled electricity from "thin air". Moray got shot at and had his lab broken into/destroyed back in the early 1940s, I believe, right before our Philadelphia Experiment, Manhattan Project, and the later Roswell incident (whatever your opinions on these subjects, it is some strange timing, especially considering an Italian/Axis scientist Enrico Fermi did much of the work on our atom bomb at the same time frame). Tesla died in 1943 and the FBI raided his labs and papers, classified a bunch of work and dynamited Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower, up in your neck of the woods in upstate NY, near Montauk. I was really surprised with how beautiful and pastoral the non-concrete part of NY is- I was travelling to Rochester for some "gray" aerospace work. Completely 180 degrees from what I expected though.

For some interesting electrogravity and "overunity" photos and videos, head over to this French website (open source "free energy" collaboration):
http://jnaudin.free.fr/

You'll find plenty to make you say WTF over there, and you don't really need an engineering degree to get a decent impression of their work.

An 9/11 Truth associate has told me "The ancient Chinese curse is upon us-- may you live in interesting times." I think we just began realizing the truth of this statement on 9/11/2001.

AuGmENTor
09-24-2007, 10:19 PM
Yep, that was the guy... He didn't seem to understand the mechanics of what he was doing. He was just twisting knobs til neat shit started happening. I would imagine there had to be more to it than that. He probably just didn't want to say too much to the interviewer.
That last link you posted to the frog website... I know better than to even click one of those things. I will understand nothing of what they are talking about.
You did mention one name I knew. Tesla? Did't he make a coil that grabbed electricity right off of wires? Making it so that you could use low load (amperage) devices inside your home? And didn't some bad shit happen to him behind it? Just vauge memories is all.

AuGmENTor
09-24-2007, 10:25 PM
I was really surprised with how beautiful and pastoral the non-concrete part of NY is- I was travelling to Rochester for some "gray" aerospace work. Completely 180 degrees from what I expected though.


If you saw my property in upstate NY (30 miles or so from lake george,)you'd be in awe of how beautiful it is. At nighte there, the darkness and silence are so complete you can hear your heart beating.
Also: I have never eard anyone refrence that chinese proverb or curse or whatever. I read that in a Stephen King book years ago, and haven't thought of it in some time...

dMole
09-25-2007, 12:06 AM
You did mention one name I knew. Tesla? Did't he make a coil that grabbed electricity right off of wires? Making it so that you could use low load (amperage) devices inside your home? And didn't some bad shit happen to him behind it? Just vauge memories is all.

Tesla had 114 US patents, not counting the classified/denied stuff for our US Govt. and Nazi Germany. He had several generators and coil designs. Interesting bit if trivia- one of Tesla's original Niagara Falls AC generators is on display in the Smithsonian next to Thomas Edison's statue- WTF??? Tesla and Edison were pretty much enemies (Tesla being the much better engineer), and JP Morgan pretty well hung Tesla out to dry with funny funding. Edison went around electrocuting dogs and a horse to show how "dangerous" Tesla's system was in a literal electrical dog-n-pony show.

My college physics class had a Tesla coil demonstration that lit up flourescent tubes and a flashlight bulb wired only to a car radio antenna with no other wires used.

Tesla recommended very high voltage (18,000 - 30,000 volts if I recall) and high frequency 1800 cycles per second Alternating Current (AC) power. Edison wanted low-voltage Direct Current (DC)- problem is, you can't transmit DC power without huge losses. We pretty much got stuck with Tesla's early inferior (and more dangerous) Niagara Falls design for big business reasons, and we're still using 120 Volt AC, 60 cycle/second power to this day (1890s technology if anyone is keeping track). Your house typically has 3 wires running to every switch, lamp, and outlet (black or "live"/"hot" L1, white "neutral", and a green or bare copper earth ground (tied to your plumbing and the water table by ground rods and metal pipes). Your electric stove, welder, and dryer will also have a red "L2" that gives your 240 Volt AC, still at 60 cycles per second. Tesla's systems would have been much cheaper, especially the wireless one (no power lines needed).

If we would have used Tesla's later improved high voltage, high-frequency system, we would need only one wire, and it could be much smaller (and actually safer "high-voltage"- ironic, isn't it). He later invented a method to transmit power with NO wires (my physics class demo) and invented a remote control/wireless/radio boat demonstrated in 1898 (officially before Tesla's invention of radio, which was credited to Guglielmo Marconi- go figure).

http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ins/lab_remotec.html

As far as Taser resistance, getting our police to wake up and smell the fascism around them is our best bet (some of them are pretty decent guys 'n gals). Blackwater on the other hand...UGH!! I'd think that "reinforced" motorcycle racing leathers or welding leathers would give improved protection against the metal taser prongs (15 foot range from what I remember). Or else those hard plastic motorcycle chest protectors that we used to wear to keep tree limbs out of our chest cavity when dirt riding, but none of these are too cheap. Most police will try to tase for the torso center of mass due to their pistol training, I'd expect. Electrically, the 50,000 volt DC (like Edisons idea, I think) taser will be hard to insulate- better to avoid the metal prongs&wires by either distance or armor (they may have dressed like that for a reason in "The Road Warrior" movie).

dMole
09-25-2007, 02:41 AM
Been doing some Taser research- 20 foot range is normal, with very risky 35-foot and 100-foot models available that are likely to hit innocent bystanders. I had read that the "prongs" are actually straightened out deep sea fishooks and go in about 1/4" and "hook" in your flesh (but this was on a blog by a guy who claimed to have volunteered for this).

Similar to an automobile ignition coil, 50,000 volts DC is applied per "zap" usually, but the new models use a pulsed DC that is tuned to be at a more painful "resonance" with the human nervous system. Technology in fascist, elitist hands is NOT a good thing- much of why I don't work for them anymore and I took up Truth prospecting.

They can also have the "prong" propellant cartridge removed and be used as a handheld device- oh joy. They are "single shots" however if the prongs miss or get deflected, and they apparently don't work if one prong is removed from the victim/activist or the wire broken/cut. Remeber those nets that the gladiators used in Rome- close netting or metal mesh might not be too prong/wire friendly? Metal mesh might short out the zapper circuit too- humans have a pretty high electrical resistance if they're not waterlogged.

http://www.aclu-or.org/site/DocServer/ACLU_OR_TASER_REPORT_091207.pdf?docID=2381

http://michaelbell.samsbiz.com/

AuGmENTor
09-25-2007, 04:42 PM
Problem with that is, I don't wanna run around looking like a reject extra from Road Warrior. Want to blend better than that.

dMole
09-25-2007, 04:58 PM
Hey AuG,

I guess there's always the option of moving to Oakland, CA and hanging out in "The Black Hole" with "Raider Nation..." You're probably MORE likely to get tazed just for that than anything though, especially minding your own damn in upstate NY.

AuGmENTor
09-25-2007, 05:16 PM
The cops up here are out of control. Trigger happy lunatic drivers. It's like they think they are above the law. I thank god that in my salad days there were no tazers.