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Gold9472
06-11-2006, 01:35 PM
Top politicians pay homage to king of bloggers
Presidential hopefuls woo Las Vegas convention

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1794901,00.html?gusrc=rss

(Gold9472: And NOW you know why DailyKos has banned anyone promoting 9/11 Truth. They're making friends.)

Paul Harris
Sunday June 11, 2006
The Observer

For many, they are the nerds of US politics: laptop warriors, with brains full of statistics, no social life and devoting too much time to arcane policy details.

But last week the political blogger - someone who runs an online journal - emerged into the mainstream and shed the stereotype in the glare and glitz of a Las Vegas casino. At their helm was former soldier Markos Moulitsas. At the age of 34, Moulitsas has progressed from private policy nerd to one of the best- known public voices in Democratic politics, described last week on Time.com as 'the left's own Kurt Cobain and Che Guevara rolled into one'.

Thousands of bloggers gathered last week in the Riviera to exchange ideas, debate and plot their steady takeover of journalism and political debate from newspapers, magazines and television.

Anyone who thinks blogging is over-rated should have looked at the guest list of power players who followed the blogging herd to Las Vegas to woo and be wooed by these latest additions to the political scene. Reporters and columnists from all the main newspapers showed up, as did Democratic strategists. Even potential Democrat candidates for the 2008 presidential election pitched up to network and sell their political wares to the online community. Although the event was meant to appeal to all parties, its guest list was overwhelmingly liberal.

Mark Warner, a former Democratic governor of Virginia, was there. So was Harry Reid, the Senate minority leader. Former Democrat presidential candidate General Wesley Clark was there, too, as was Bill Richardson, the Democratic governor of New Mexico.

Richardson is a hot tip for the 2008 race, because he governs in a traditionally Republican part of America and has a Hispanic background, which could see him scoop up the votes of one of America's most powerful ethnic minorities. 'I see you guys as agents of advocacy,' Richardson told the bloggers.

Reid also heaped praise on the blogging community, saying it had played a vital role in some Democratic political victories in the past year. 'They [bloggers] have the ability to spread the truth like no entities I've dealt with in recent years. We could never have won the battle to stop privatisation of social security without them,' he told the New York Times

No one better illustrates the rise of the blogger than Moulitsas, founder of the hugely influential left-wing blog The Daily Kos and the person whom the Yearly Kos 2006 Vegas convention was named after. He started his blog several years ago as a personal project, but his fan base has turned him into one of the most influential voices of the left.

The Daily Kos rose to prominence during the doomed nomination campaign of Howard Dean in 2004. Dean's campaign was the first to recognise the growing importance of the internet for raising money and debating ideas and the Daily Kos became an important forum for his supporters. Though Dean lost to John Kerry in the nomination battle, the impact of the bloggers remained important.

Moulitsas has even written a best-selling book offering advice to Democrat bloggers on how to win back America after two terms of Republican rule. He arrived at the conference with his own media advisers in tow and was greeted in a manner more befitting a rock star than a political analyst. He was mobbed for his autograph and people crowded around to have their photos taken with him.

Moulitsas now has more readers than many large American newspapers. His website gets about 20 million unique visits each month, a figure that dwarfs many global media organisations. This has made him a genuine power in politics. His views are sought out by political journalists and he has appeared as a pundit on television.

However, despite the triumphant arrival of the bloggers in the heart of the American political system and plans for the convention to be a regular stop for politicians, the bloggers had not entirely left behind their humble roots. Maureen Dowd, writing in the New York Times, described the scene: 'They blogged, BlackBerried, texted and cell-phoned - sometimes contacting someone only a few feet away. They were paler and more earnest than your typical Vegas visitors, but the mood was like a masquerade.'

But it was a modest masquerade: the Riviera was chosen not for its glamour, but because rooms cost only $99 a night.

Gold9472
06-11-2006, 01:40 PM
Here is what I managed to get on...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/4/1/163451/5317
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/25/134518/995
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/22/182730/851
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/21/191033/629
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/19/125246/508
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/14/72952/9594
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/9/21834/24684

thumper
06-11-2006, 01:42 PM
those guys were compromised ages ago

Gold9472
06-11-2006, 01:43 PM
I found it interesting that I was creating "diaries" that were getting a lot of attention only to find one day that I could log in, but no longer post.

thumper
06-11-2006, 01:56 PM
the illuminati got to them

Gold9472
06-11-2006, 02:05 PM
"Friends" to sites like DailyKos mean $$$$. "Friends" to sites like the YBBS mean that this NIGHTMARE will end.

borepstein
06-11-2006, 02:19 PM
I found it interesting that I was creating "diaries" that were getting a lot of attention only to find one day that I could log in, but no longer post.

Same here. Got censored out after this one (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/2/14548/65656).

Gold9472
06-11-2006, 02:27 PM
Same here. Got censored out after this one (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/2/14548/65656).

I think it's bullshit. It's almost like they're trying to make it seem as if 9/11 never happened. Like people try to make it seem like the Holocaust never happened.

borepstein
06-11-2006, 02:53 PM
I think it's bullshit. It's almost like they're trying to make it seem as if 9/11 never happened. Like people try to make it seem like the Holocaust never happened.

I think there is a parallel, but it is a little different. Both the Holocaust and the 9/11 have been transformed into religious myths (http://pyramid.blog-city.com/911_american_empire_and_christian_faith.htm). Thus analysing those events - and possibly altering or rejecting some elements of the accepted story - is viewed as blashemy.

For instance, it is absurd to claim 9/11 or the Holocaust did not take place. It is quite normal to analyze both events.

Gold9472
06-11-2006, 03:01 PM
I think there is a parallel, but it is a little different. Both the Holocaust and the 9/11 have been transformed into religious myths (http://pyramid.blog-city.com/911_american_empire_and_christian_faith.htm). Thus analysing those events - and possibly altering or rejecting some elements of the accepted story - is viewed as blashemy.

For instance, it is absurd to claim 9/11 or the Holocaust did not take place. It is quite normal to analyze both events.

I agree, but there is analysis, and then there is analysis. Those who promote bad information for either argument, are not helping. Those who completely ignore any of the information is just plain criminal at this point.

borepstein
06-11-2006, 03:41 PM
I agree, but there is analysis, and then there is analysis. Those who promote bad information for either argument, are not helping. Those who completely ignore any of the information is just plain criminal at this point.

I think this is extreme. I respect everyone's fredom of expression and don't seek to criminalize those who express ideas I find nonsensical.

Gold9472
06-11-2006, 03:44 PM
I think this is extreme. I respect everyone's fredom of expression and don't seek to criminalize those who express ideas I find nonsensical.

I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about DailyKos' obvious cover-up of 9/11 Truth. That, to me, is criminal.

borepstein
06-11-2006, 04:10 PM
I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about DailyKos' obvious cover-up of 9/11 Truth. That, to me, is criminal.

Oh, I know it wasn't me you meant. Back to DailyKos: there coverup of the 9/11 truth movement is very deceitful (they don't announce it) and dishonest. I won't invite Kos to my home ever, likely won't shake his hand and won't give a dime to support his efforts. Yet I would not call what he does a crime - he has a right to do all this, including a right to implement censorship on his site.

MikeJr.
06-11-2006, 04:56 PM
Fuck dailyhos,
Dudes gay n-e-ways. I seen him on The Colbert Report, G.A.Y all D.A.Y.

Gold9472
06-11-2006, 05:24 PM
Oh, I know it wasn't me you meant. Back to DailyKos: there coverup of the 9/11 truth movement is very deceitful (they don't announce it) and dishonest. I won't invite Kos to my home ever, likely won't shake his hand and won't give a dime to support his efforts. Yet I would not call what he does a crime - he has a right to do all this, including a right to implement censorship on his site.

He has purposefully covered up the Government's involvement. Therefore, he is aiding and abetting.

Gold9472
06-11-2006, 05:26 PM
He didn't ignore it. He allowed it on his site until either he started to see that what we were saying is true, and it scared him, or he was receiving flack from those politicians he's trying to attract, and thereby, took it down. Either way, he's helping the cover-up continue. Purposefully. If he completely, and always ignored it, then I wouldn't think twice about it.

borepstein
06-12-2006, 07:48 AM
He has purposefully covered up the Government's involvement. Therefore, he is aiding and abetting.

Well, let's not play loose with definitions. By law, it is only illegal to tamper with evidence and cover things up when questioned by investigators. So as a private citizen he can cover things up to you or me all he wants.

Unfortunately, it is not illegal even for public officials to lie - which is something that I believe ought to be changed (http://pyramid.blog-city.com/rumsfeld_and_cheney_revive_their_70s_terror_playbo ok.htm).

Cloak & Swagger
06-12-2006, 09:52 AM
When I first started drifting in and out of indie news blogs, I initially thought Kos gave fair representation to some of the more pressing issues facing this country.
And based on early posts from JG on there wrt the 9/11 government coverup etc. that they remained open to it all, maybe not taking sides, but remaining open, as well they should.
But as of late, I've begun to realize different. Now, they're not only closed on the issue, they're suppressing the information. I'm not entirely sure what to make of their behavior, but I know they're free to believe what they want. I just don't understand their bold efforts of censorship regarding the issue, they're essentially no different than the mainstream media in that regard.
It's just sad really.

borepstein
06-12-2006, 01:39 PM
I just don't understand their bold efforts of censorship regarding the issue, they're essentially no different than the mainstream media in that regard.
It's just sad really.

Sad - but to be expected as they set themselves a purely political goal, and a narrow one at that - to get Democrats into power. Well, while playing that game they realized - correctly or incorrectly - that the 9/11 truth is an obstacle. Hence the decision to suppress it.